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There is no evidence of

artappraiser — Sun, 11 Nov 2018 00:29:50 +0000

In reply to Sinema (D) Lead Widens in AZ Senate Race

There is no evidence of "electoral corruption" in Arizona, Mr. President. Thousands of dedicated Arizonans work in a non-partisan fashion every election cycle to ensure that every vote is counted. We appreciate their service. https://t.co/Xtd5Vd0gSu
— Jeff Flake (@JeffFlake) November 10, 2018

Disloyalty!! Feld Marschall

NCD — Sat, 10 Nov 2018 19:25:07 +0000

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Disloyalty!! Feld Marschall Ducey may find himself stripped of rank and Party membership if he keeps this up!

It's true that the give and

ocean-kat — Sat, 10 Nov 2018 18:34:26 +0000

In reply to yeah I didn't like all her

It's true that the give and take of marriage is similar to the compromises necessary for the parties to work together after an election. But let's be honest about where the problem is. Democrats have attempted time after time to reach some sort of compromise even to the point where I think they are giving away the store only to be rebuffed by republicans.

Democrats tried to work with a coalition of republicans led by Rubio to come up with an immigration reform bill. It was so far to the right that I could barely support it. In the end I was willing to tolerate it because it gave protections to Dreamers. The far right would accept no compromise and despite Rubio's hard work to pass the bill republicans wouldn't support it. Republicans wouldn't tolerate any compromise with democrats at all.

I could list other examples. Obama practically bent over backwards to reach some compromise on his health care bill. Not one republican was willing to even try to work with democrats on it or vote for it. He came up with a grand budget compromise that was so far right I wouldn't have supported it and it failed because republicans wouldn't even consider it.

The liberals aren't running the party despite republican propaganda. The centrists that mostly make up the democratic party are more than willing, too willing, to compromise with the republicans. To no avail. Republicans won't compromise.

Republican governor of

artappraiser — Sat, 10 Nov 2018 17:20:37 +0000

In reply to Sinema (D) Lead Widens in AZ Senate Race

Republican governor of Arizona seemingly trying to clamp down on conspiracies about Arizona’s slow vote count. https://t.co/g9kq8UQ1h8
— Nathan McDermott (@natemcdermott) November 10, 2018

McSally lost a tight 2012 race on late-counted ballots, and won in 2014 after a similar, long final count. She knows a lot more about how Arizona counts votes than the people now tossing around conspiracy theories do. https://t.co/xChvlJYU88
— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) November 10, 2018

The president is attempting

artappraiser — Sat, 10 Nov 2018 16:40:44 +0000

In reply to Sinema (D) Lead Widens in AZ Senate Race

The president is attempting to delegitimize every election he loses or might lose. https://t.co/dAYY1uovbF
— Glenn Thrush (@GlennThrush) November 10, 2018

Struck me as a good example of the way to cover the Trump troll in general: just simply point out the overall behavorial patterns.

yeah I didn't like all her

artappraiser — Sat, 10 Nov 2018 16:30:10 +0000

In reply to " women often conform to the

yeah I didn't like all her spin on things either but at least she was trying to say "look, it's complicated" instead of making them into a heinous enemy.

Your point is actually an excellent one the more I think on it, as the give/take in marriage is what's got to happen between parties to govern once an election is over.

If a woman wanted complete individual agency, she wouldn't get married. If one wanted true blue Democrat world, one would work towards living in a one-party nation where everyone agreed to the platform or else.

Back to the marriage thing, and the stereotype of Republican wives choosing a secondary role. Many examples of still tempering the partner a lot. The McCain's seem an excellent example, as do both Bush presidents. I think of Cindy McCain saying: we're going to adopt this Bangladeshi baby, and you're going to love it! Does anyone think he would have chosen to do that if she was a 100% submissive wife and didn't affect him to change his approach to life? Or a lot of liberal extended families have a Fox-News-spewing uncle character to ridicule. Do they ever think about how the aunt married to him gets him to even come to the Thanksgiving dinner?

" women often conform to the

PeraclesPlease — Sat, 10 Nov 2018 07:58:41 +0000

In reply to over at The Guardian for

" women often conform to the dominant ideologies of the men around them as part of a subconscious survival strategy " - it's called marriage for one - not too much "subconscious" about that strategy - we have joint custody of households, and we make compromises & meld opinions/worldviews as part of that shared destiny. When you live with people, you get accustomed to their worser attributes, and I'm sure that extends to voting for similar reptiles out in the wild.

Plus, I love how women are never assigned the agency of just *preferring* some things or maybe having conflicted choices. Instead, it must be "the man" always putting them down, rather than sometimes?

If you Google you'll find the

PeraclesPlease — Sat, 10 Nov 2018 07:48:00 +0000

In reply to over at The Guardian for

If you Google you'll find the figure is closer to 47%? (some Time article summarizes well) - exit polls suck, but once we get wrong data in our heads, it's hard to give up.

http://time.com/5422644/trump-white-women-2016/

O-kat... Looking at the

oldenGoldenDecoy — Sat, 10 Nov 2018 06:53:24 +0000

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O-kat... Looking at the numbers...

Arizona Republic Published 7:20 p.m. MT Nov. 8, 2018 | Updated 2:15 p.m. MT Nov. 9, 2018

How many votes left to count in the McSally-Sinema race? Here's our latest estimate

Maricopa County has 345,000 ballots to be counted. That includes 150,000 early ballots received before Election Day and 195,000 ballots that were either early ballots dropped off on Election Day, provisional ballots, or out-of-precinct ballots cast on Election Day.

Pima County has 54,000 votes to be counted. This includes about 36,000 early ballots and 18,000 provisional votes. Pima County Registrar of Voters Chris Roads said the Recorder's Office will begin processing provisional ballots Friday morning.

Pinal County has an estimated 31,800 early ballots still to count, said Michele Forney, elections director. There are 6,800 provisionals left to count, she said, plus about 25,000 early ballots.
Coconino County has about 10,600 votes left to count, per the elections department there. Those votes won't get counted until Friday.

Ballots remaining to be counted in the rest of the state total 4,600 in Apache County, 1,700 in Cochise County, 580 in La Paz, an estimated 8,000 in Mohave County, 4,000 in Navajo County, 2,200 in Santa Cruz County, 6,100 in Yavapai County and 3,100 in Yuma County, according to Garrett Archer of the Secretary of State's office.

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The whole thing is surprising

ocean-kat — Sat, 10 Nov 2018 04:34:36 +0000

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The whole thing is surprising. We're still a very conservative state and I expected McSally to win. Lots of rural red areas with a couple of blue cities. Anti-immigrant, remember Arpaio was elected sheriff over and over again. And Simena said some things that could be seen as insulting to Arizona. Some of it was Daily show jokes which I found funny but when it came out I thought for sure she was done. But AZ with a republican governor and state house did sign up for Obamacare and about a year ago I read an article about the large numbers of rural republican voters who loved it. Seems that with the constant sun with most residents out doors much of the time has led to a lot of melanoma cancer that mostly aren't life threatening but need constant monitoring and removal. Maybe AZ is starting to trend blue.