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Even that doesn't apply, I

artappraiser — Sun, 25 Nov 2018 21:37:17 +0000

In reply to Yo, dude - 20-25 years of Fox

Even that doesn't apply, I would say. To this day, who knows what Murdoch's Rosebud is. Ailes and his kind made the Fox News brand, based on I dunno what, the Murdoch NYPost, whatever. It's just a brand that Murdoch supports. Laws in more than one country didn't allow him to buy up TV stations when those were the main pipelines. In the days when Hearst was buying up and creating newspapers, they were the main pipelines. That so many watch Fox News now is still really following freedom of the press (in the Brit tradition where there is a marked political slant), I don't see that as an issue here. But we are in a bizarre brave new world where Trump manipulates all of the media, not just Fox, using Twitter, not Fox. By trolling, by drawing attention away from what is of import and to false narratives.

Kristof addressed the problem two days ago, saw many journalist retweet it:

Trying to Fight, Not Spread, Fear and Lies How can the media avoid the misinformation trap?

They''ll eventually figure out a way as long as too much consolidation isn't allowed? Because: different opinions? I.E., not Hungary.

It took a while to find, but

artappraiser — Sun, 25 Nov 2018 21:23:16 +0000

In reply to It's chilling reading how

It took a while to find, but oh boy now I see, from that fine renowned news spinner Heavy.com, Oct. 2016:

Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump will reportedly blame the recent onslaught of sexual assault allegations against him on Mexican billionaire Carlos Slim, according to The Wall Street Journal.

A Trump adviser told The Wall Street Journal that Trump will start going after the Mexican billionaire as soon as Friday, saying that Slim is involved in a conspiracy to dredge up negative stories about Trump and plant them in the media.

Here’s what you need to know about Carlos Slim, his wealth, and his relationship with Donald Trump [.....]

How does that work with selling lots of NYTimes stock earlier this year many months before the migrant train even started? Is it that he was like paying bots to sow chaos on Facebook in Honduras? Why would a Lebanese Catholic Mexican citizen do that?

You don't even get what this thread is about, do you? Hint: more about who owns the pipelines, like say Mark Zuckerberg, those who very much might be cynically malleable in the right situation aside from ideology, and not who owns a chunk of a single media entity. So that demagogic narcissists can fool people like you into caring about imaginary problems and distract you from what is really going on with shiny faux narratives.

Probably more like you don't care, you'd rather stoke fake alarm and false flag about massive illegal immigration being supported by bogeymen. When it's been declining for years. BTW, on that, did you see what lockerup Hillary said the other day?

Yo, dude - 20-25 years of Fox

PeraclesPlease — Sun, 25 Nov 2018 19:52:40 +0000

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Yo, dude - 20-25 years of Fox News lockstep with the right while NYtimes has major fuckups like rebroadcasting Bush propaganda on Iraw War or falsely declaring a week before 2016 elections there were no Trump-Russian connections? Get bent.

It's chilling reading how

Peter — Sun, 25 Nov 2018 18:28:51 +0000

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It's chilling reading how globalist billionaires such as Carlos Slim are redefining free press through their propaganda organs like the NYT. This is not surprising because they already describe their populist nationalist enemies as near-dictators/autocrats because governments and leaders are only democratic if they serve the collectivist NWO agenda.

The latest example of this chilling, free press agenda is being displayed at the UN confab in Marrakesh on refugees that will define criticism of illegal immigrants as hate speech.

one should read Gilmor's

artappraiser — Sat, 24 Nov 2018 20:15:19 +0000

In reply to The Website That Shows How a Free Press Can Die

I recommend reading Gilmor's whole twitter thread along with the article especially this summary point:

If you care about independent journalism you should oppose carriers owning content, period. This is one reason why AT&T's purchase of Time Warner -- especially its ownership of CNN -- is so problematic. It's why Verizon's scooping up of media properties should worry you. 7/
— Dan Gillmor (@dangillmor) November 24, 2018

And, going back to original telecom/regulatory sins, it's why Comcast should never, ever have been permitted to buy NBC Universal -- the deal that set off the accelerating race among telecoms to control information, not just provide the "pipes" over which it moves. 8/
— Dan Gillmor (@dangillmor) November 24, 2018