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My hunch gets some backing:

artappraiser — Fri, 14 Dec 2018 09:23:57 +0000

In reply to To be brutally honest, as a

My hunch gets some backing:

A Mysterious Imposter Account Was Used On Facebook To Drum Up Support For The Migrant Caravan - pretty shocking scoop from ⁦@kenbensinger⁩ and ⁦@karlazabs⁩ https://t.co/TtFKTeYfBd
— grace wyler (@grace_lightning) December 14, 2018

most notably this:

Fuentes first learned about the phony account from Irineo Mujica, who represents Pueblo Sin Fronteras and has organized previous caravans.

In an interview, Mujica said the group had been against the caravan because of the likelihood it would be used to stir up anti-immigrant sentiment in the lead-up to the midterms.

That’s why he was so infuriated by the Facebook messages claiming he not only supported the caravan but would personally be traveling to Honduras to lead it out of San Pedro Sula. But once the caravan attained critical mass, Pueblo Sin Fronteras decided to show support, albeit from the sidelines.

Someone went out of their way to make things "go viral" when it wasn't really a wise thing to do and leaders knew it. It is so typical of many stories I read from poorer communities in Latin America. A minority have internet skills and access but not a lot of savviness about what to believe, and things travel fast from those to many others by word of mouth.

It just didn't make sense. The antipathy towards immigrants in the U.S. right now is widely known in like Mexico. Maybe even overplayed. They stopped trying to come unless sneaking in somehow, the numbers show it. Why would this crowd think Trump would let them in, especially in a mass caravan form for all to see? Just doesn't make sense unless someone went out of their way to convince otherwise.

Don't worry. I share you

Michael Maiello — Thu, 29 Nov 2018 13:32:59 +0000

In reply to this story is more grist for

Don't worry. I share you sense of intrigue.

But I do think the gassing children is the real story that's been ignored.

Thank you.

Michael Maiello — Thu, 29 Nov 2018 13:32:19 +0000

In reply to I’M MAD AS HELL AND I’M NOT

Thank you.

I’M MAD AS HELL AND I’M NOT

CVille Dem — Thu, 29 Nov 2018 02:11:45 +0000

In reply to If It Cries in Terror, It Doesn't Lead

I’M MAD AS HELL AND I’M NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE!!!

this story is more grist for

artappraiser — Wed, 28 Nov 2018 17:51:08 +0000

In reply to To be brutally honest, as a

this story is more grist for my conspiratorial mill

"We’re here alone, hungry, unprotected.” Regrets build on the border, @el_reportero reports https://t.co/97baEoQ8mt
— Justin Miller (@justinjm1) November 28, 2018

how come the caravan folks still think the following?

But the tough treatment at the border brought home a rude reality for many migrants in the caravan: that their idealized vision of the United States—a kind and just country willing to welcome people wanting nothing more than to work or seek safety—has put obstacles in their path

Mexicans understood long ago that was not the situation anymore, maybe even before Trump, that's part of the reason U.S. Seeing Lowest Level Of Unauthorized Immigrants In A Decade. Certainly once he was inaugurated, it is big news among the immigrant community about his crackdowns and the protests, too. It's not like they have to read newspapers to know this, it travels word of mouth in the emigre communities to back home. It is all very strange.

Edit to add: apologies, Michael, if you think this is a distraction from your issue of use of tear gas on children, no argument from me about it being a disgusting thing and deserving attention.

Considering how the prospect

jollyroger — Wed, 28 Nov 2018 00:39:45 +0000

In reply to I blame Pancho...

Considering how the prospect of Palestinian complaints to the UN over Israeli war crimes has the US foreign policy shop staining their shorts, one might perhaps hope someday to enjoy the sight of AMLO striding to the podium to make the appropriate accusations.

I blame Pancho...

jollyroger — Wed, 28 Nov 2018 00:16:37 +0000

In reply to But it's not just Trump. I

I blame Pancho...

Never there when you need him...What ever happened to sovereignty?

Coincidentally, today the guy who put 10 bullets (over the border and) into he back of a 15 year old boy who was guilty of being in the vicinity of stone throwers was acquitted of murder and the jury hung on the lesser includeds.

AMLO, show the yanqui who is boss...no, wail, let me rethink/rephrase...

But it's not just Trump. I

Michael Maiello — Tue, 27 Nov 2018 17:21:56 +0000

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But it's not just Trump. I expect this from him. CNN's Chris Cuomo blathered about how we shouldn't demonize the Customs and Border Patrol people who fired tear gas at children because they're just doing their jobs. Oh, and Chris has been teargassed before. No biggie!

"Libtard", please - I worked

PeraclesPlease — Tue, 27 Nov 2018 13:44:35 +0000

In reply to you liberals are never

"Libtard", please - I worked hard for the moniker and deserve to hosted by my own p'tard.

you liberals are never

artappraiser — Tue, 27 Nov 2018 09:22:08 +0000

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you liberals: never satisfied. guy finally learns people don't like it, is BAD, when children are separated from their parents (self aware!!!) and you're not impressed! NOT FAIR! WITCH HUNT!