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I knowed it's best to just

NCD — Thu, 29 Nov 2018 21:15:31 +0000

I knowed it's best to just believe Trump. I trust him. Do you?

You should send Trump your stories so he can use them to prove once and for all that he has been sure enough right all along. He's at here-

President Donald Trump

1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW

Washington, DC 20500.

Just dont need your anti-news

PeraclesPlease — Thu, 29 Nov 2018 20:20:30 +0000

In reply to PP, is CNN in a protected

Just dont need your anti-news propaganda - plenty of stupid sites you can post on if that's what you crave.

PP, is CNN in a protected

Peter — Thu, 29 Nov 2018 18:59:36 +0000

In reply to For all the lull in climate

PP, is CNN in a protected class now that needs sheltering from my snark?

Can you tell me you believe if GAT has increased by .5 to 1 degree C on a scale of 0 to 100 in the last 20 years qualifies as 'gone way up'? I've observed the weather/climate here in NM for 48 years and seen winters become warmer but summers remain much the same. Old timers tell me the '50s were as warm or warmer and the '30s were definitely warmer and dryer. The ice caps have been 'decimated' over the last 12,000 years and are intact and it appears they will remain intact for a long time. Some are shrinking and some are growing and that will probably continue. We've seen record low snowfall and record high snowfall winters recently along with record low temperatures this year. Scientists tell us that GW could or might increase the number or strength of storms but the record shown no actual increase in these events in fact tornado numbers and strength has declined over the last 40 years.

Repeating what some people say they believe has happened and what might happen doesn't make either true. This is especially true when some people have been exposed as having modified the data from the past to make it appear to fit their predictions about what will happen in the future.

Here are more comments from

rmrd0000 — Wed, 28 Nov 2018 21:25:34 +0000

In reply to Here is an excellent Twitter

Here are more comments from Hayhoe from the Daily Beast

https://www.thedailybeast.com/climate-scientist-katharine-hayhoe-accuses-cnn-of-bumping-her-expertise-for-rick-santorum?ref=home

Soledad O’Brien are among

rmrd0000 — Wed, 28 Nov 2018 20:57:06 +0000

In reply to CNN is broadcasting Facts vs. Sarah Sanders

Soledad O’Brien are among those criticizing CNN for providing white supremacists a platform to gain ratings.

https://blackamericaweb.com/2018/11/28/former-cnn-anchor-soledad-obrien-blasts-the-network-for-giving-white-supremacists-airtime/

Van Jones is one of the worst. Jones actually thought something positive could come out of Kanye going to the White House

https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/van-jones-embarrassing-display-las...

Jones actually called Trump “Presidential” during his speech to the Joint. session of Congress in 2017

https://www.gq.com/story/what-the-hell-van-jones

It is about time CNN stuck to facts

For all the lull in climate

PeraclesPlease — Wed, 28 Nov 2018 19:10:10 +0000

In reply to Jolly, you seem to be a

For all the lull in climate change, temperature's gone way up in YoureUp these last 20 years (killing off much of ski season) , ice caps are being decimated, seems California's being dried out, while global warming's being tied to the increase in hurricanes and weather anomalies. But sure, say it ain't so, Joe - who ya gonna believe, me? Or your lying eyes?

I don't link to this readily

ocean-kat — Wed, 28 Nov 2018 18:56:54 +0000

In reply to Jolly, you seem to be a

I don't link to this readily available knowledge because

You don't link to anything ever to back up your claims. People here link often to debunk the nonsense you post. You've been proven wrong or ignorant so often that you have lost all credibility. When you're proven wrong you never admit your error. You just drop out of the conversation and disappear for a while.

Here is an excellent Twitter

artappraiser — Wed, 28 Nov 2018 18:26:22 +0000

In reply to All those bloggy moments will

Here is an excellent Twitter thread tying together both the media issue here and the climate one; click on this to see her whole sad thread:

I get my hair and make up done, we drive across the city, I do the interview, Anderson is lovely, the whole thing takes three hours .... and they don’t air the interview. Instead, they give more airtime to Santorum, so he can to continue to spread disinformation.
— Katharine Hayhoe (@KHayhoe) November 28, 2018

Now the traditional liberal thing is to blame the "MSM". But I actually do not blame them for doing what their audience prefers to see: political games, to get all het up about what one political operative says and to get emotionally involved in the "fight".

This gets to the heart of what I think is a grand war between news junkies and political activists. Political activists and political horse race junkies are at odds with news junkies and always have been, with the goal of supporting as-objective-as-possible analytic journalism and factual news. Much of early blogging was political spin and activism.

So I see a Josh Marshall type, who starts out as a good analyst but becomes a believer in promoting political activism, as part of the problem. It's the click bait problem; this is the problem of hordes of Obamamaniacs and Clintonites invading a website to duke it out and overwhelming a small group simply simply trying to analyze and discuss what's going on in the world. It pays the salaries of journalists and keeps the lights on. But then the journalists have to keep writing things slanted with political partisanship click bait to rile up the troops. And few want to read the article by the climate scientist, but they all want to read the outrage filled and outrageous latest by a friend-of-Josh spinner giving his opinion so they can argue with it.

As far as I am concerned, Trump has taken this to a whole nother level, far beyond my wildest expectations, where facts and analysis are not just boring but totally ignored for alternative "stories" or narratives. A nightmare where it's not even feeding political partisanship any more but pro-the-narcissist's reality or anti-the-narcissist's reality.

Jolly, you seem to be a

Peter — Wed, 28 Nov 2018 18:17:42 +0000

In reply to Innocent of citation, or even

Jolly, you seem to be a bright fellow so you should know you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink. I don't link to this readily available knowledge because it's forbidden fruit that the true believers can't digest It gives them indigestion and all they hear is the hissing of snakes. I understand this condition because I too was a true believer/environmentalist who consumed an Algoreian diet of information that seemed to verify what I observed about GW over 40 years in the same location. I planted thousands of trees, still heat my home with wood, produce as little waste as possible and drive a fuel efficient vehicle, all for the cause that I believed in. I don't regret any of these things and I mocked the GW deniers mercilessly when I encountered them because they must have been deluded tools of the fossil fuels industry. and their wingnut enablers.

Why did I change my POV and expose myself to the same mocking from true believers I used to inflict? I made the horrible mistake of getting a technical/scientific education to improve myself and better understand and defend the Warmist agenda. The problem was I also exposed myself to the basis of the scientific method skeptical questioning of consensus orthodoxy especially when they have political almost religious following such as CAGW alarmism. I don't expect anyone to change their mind overnight about GW, it took me years to understand what is really happening. You can ignore my feeble attempt to educate people and read someone I admire and is probably the most brilliant scientific/philosopher mind alive today. His name is Freeman Dyson a contemporary of Einstein and Oppenheimer at Princeton where he led their Institute on Future Studies until he retired. Search Freeman Dyson, Heretic and you should find his lecture on GW and science. If you can digest it you might begin to see and understand what I and many other people have come to conclude about this political/religious agenda.

Agree with the sentiment that

rmrd0000 — Wed, 28 Nov 2018 13:17:41 +0000

In reply to Claro, but the imbecile is

Agree with the sentiment that climate change deniers in power are a threat to more people. The tobacco denier creates second- hand smoke which impacts the health of those in close contact.