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Thanks for this piece

artappraiser — Wed, 05 Dec 2018 02:47:53 +0000

In reply to not just happening to Bernie:

Thanks for this piece @FrankBruni https://t.co/pRHt0Y0Gnb
— Preet Bharara (@PreetBharara) December 4, 2018

High praise when Jane Mayer

artappraiser — Tue, 04 Dec 2018 01:10:23 +0000

In reply to George H.W. Bush, 41st president of the United States, dies at 94

High praise for a Dowd piece when Jane Mayer tweets it and Ryan Lizza "likes":

Put whatever your politics are aside and just read it: The Patrician President and the Reporterette: A Screwball Story https://t.co/DCBvnT5YxM
— Jane Mayer (@JaneMayerNYer) December 3, 2018

The neocon freaks were

PeraclesPlease — Sun, 02 Dec 2018 14:12:55 +0000

In reply to Saw this in the comments,

The neocon freaks were nipping at Bush's heels and went full postal with Clinton under Gingrich (thus the Whitewater nonsense this guy spews).. If Bush had been in, they would have trapped him into a much more neocon position, as they were already pissed about the tax increases. But yes, there was some continuity between Bush père and Clinton. But I doubt Bush would have assisted the rise of the internet oh-so-well, and the first attempt at universal health care was important, and no, welfare and high crime rates could not have continued as structured, but the bad stuff on welfare happened not under Clinton but under Bush Jr, whou wouldn't even stimulate a dot-com crashed economy, instead stealing from social security to pay for tax cuts - the bitter son with not much empathy and under the influence of Cheney, Rove and Norquist.

Saw this in the comments,

ocean-kat — Sun, 02 Dec 2018 03:03:02 +0000

In reply to not just happening to Bernie:

Saw this in the comments, "Bush Sr had a lot of faults. And let’s not canonize him. But at the same time he is so far above Trump that the urge to applaud the good that was in Bush Sr is understandable."

But it's more than that. Bush Sr was so far above his son, Reagan, Nixon, and of course Trump. I'm not forgetting his failings but I don't think it's wrong to acknowledge the good or even to focus on it on the day he died.

A case can be made that he was better than Clinton though I don't see it quite as cut and dried as the author.

not just happening to Bernie:

artappraiser — Sun, 02 Dec 2018 02:37:24 +0000

In reply to Perfect example of how the

not just happening to Bernie:

I can’t believe the number of followers I’ve lost tonight for benignly expressing sorrow about President Bush’s passing. Apparently, to them, I failed some ultra-progressive litmus test for seeing the good in a man I mostly disagreed with. Good riddance.
— Bryan Behar (@bryanbehar) December 1, 2018

here's the civility thing

artappraiser — Sat, 01 Dec 2018 21:52:28 +0000

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here's the civility thing summed up well in this tweet, it's about an approach to politics

George H.W. Bush was the last gentleman in Washington. He didn't see people as political opponents, but rather friends with which he disagreed. #Bush41 https://t.co/o22R8683Ou
— Evan Siegfried (@evansiegfried) December 1, 2018

And I happen to agree with those that claim that Bush helped begin much of the extinction of his kind by employing Lee Atwater. But then there was also that deathbed confession/conversion by Atwater....

George H.W. Bush was alive

artappraiser — Sat, 01 Dec 2018 21:42:59 +0000

In reply to George H.W. Bush, 41st president of the United States, dies at 94

George H.W. Bush was alive while Taft was alive who was alive while Van Buren was alive who was alive while Washington was president. https://t.co/lAmjytyScj
— Philip Bump (@pbump) December 1, 2018

this one commenter at least

artappraiser — Sat, 01 Dec 2018 21:36:04 +0000

In reply to Perfect example of how the

this one commenter at least shows the grownup way to counter an obit hagiography, quoting The Intercept. Which is right on duty, as one would expect, to supply an adversarial system response, one where there is not a single redeeming quality to this dead president, pretty much pure evil:

https://t.co/FXDZOKEmEP
— Ali Mirza (@Ali4omNY) December 1, 2018

I for one find it refreshing to see Bernie play the basic social etiquette game, once again proving he's not Chomsky. (And maybe that's why he gets elected and re-elected as a Senator, ya think?)

German Chancellor Angela

artappraiser — Sat, 01 Dec 2018 19:41:43 +0000

In reply to George H.W. Bush, 41st president of the United States, dies at 94

German Chancellor Angela Merkel on @GeorgeHWBush: "He’s the father, or one of the fathers, of the German unification, and we will never forget that."
— darlene superville (@dsupervilleap) December 1, 2018

Perfect example of how the

artappraiser — Sat, 01 Dec 2018 19:37:20 +0000

In reply to George H.W. Bush, 41st president of the United States, dies at 94

Perfect example of how the civility issue is in fact real, and that the problem does include liberals:

The comment section of this classy, honorable tweet is a cesspool of losers. https://t.co/S3A8jV7asG
— Tiana Lowe (@TianaTheFirst) December 1, 2018

I expect angry warmongering partisan language from gungho conservatives, but I will never get used to seeing it come from people who are angry about war. They know not what they do to their own cause.