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No, I see the whacked out GOP

PeraclesPlease — Wed, 16 Jan 2019 22:28:39 +0000

No, I see the whacked out GOP as the real problem (along w our Russian and Chinese expansionist adversaries. Purity liberals are just a complicating factor at times.

You and PP can be pretty

A Guy Called LULU — Wed, 16 Jan 2019 17:17:14 +0000

In reply to I didn't even feel it

You and PP can be pretty funny at times. Above he spends a couple hundred words referring to our violent history and alternate histories he thinks might have been even more violent if not for all the particular violence prescribed by the likes of Douthat and other elite educated right wing idiots. He sees“Liberals” as dupes who are the real problem. He does so just to diminish any credence given to someone who is pointing out how a current public pundit, one who has some power and authority that goes with being hosted by the NYT, developed his political philosophy. PP's knee-jerk reaction which is to Gish gallop around the subject and the reason for that gallop are both quite predictable.

Referring to the documented history of Douthat you assert: "What does this have to do with anything now?" you ask, or state as if it is an intellectually defensible rhetorical question. You have said again, as in the recent past, that an individual’s history means nothing significant about that individual or what they are saying today. Every day, according to you, is a new day which plays out with no reason to see how it got that way and with no purpose served in paying attention to the people who played significant parts in making it as it is. In only a few years Trump's reputation, currently based on being the Trump he has always been, may be rehabilitated by these same smart people who tell the us how to think about today just as they did yesterday, and what to fear tomorrow if we do not twist the world into one guided by their lights. You have recently linked approvingly and multiple times to, and then defended the reputations of Bill Kristol, whom Douthat replaced, and Max Boot, for example. It is apparent that you believe they have something valuable to say today and we should forget the past “value”, and value to whom, of what they pushed for in the past and where they were given space to do their pushing. You bring not so much as a grain of salt to sprinkle on their word salad while you suggest that someone looking critically at their foundational past is being as juvenile as you declare you were as a college student. I do give a shit what the wannabe thought leaders wrote in the past. Your mileage obviously differs.

I didn't even feel it

artappraiser — Wed, 16 Jan 2019 11:58:36 +0000

In reply to Ah yes, Pinochet, the gift

I didn't even feel it necessary to go there. I went to Lulu's link and I get where this "news" about Douhat comes from

Intellectual historian Timothy Barker dug through columns that Douthat penned for Harvard University’s right-wing student newspaper The Harvard Salient between 1998 and 2002.

Suffice it to say: I was making Lulu's arguments back in college. What does this have to do with anything now? I don't give a shit what he wrote at Harvard as an undergrad two decades ago to draw attention to himself as a kid. Bare minimum, stick to what he has said during his career as a Times columnist.

Ah yes, Pinochet, the gift

PeraclesPlease — Wed, 16 Jan 2019 11:34:00 +0000

In reply to Conservative New York Times

Ah yes, Pinochet, the gift who keeps on giving. The left still angry that a Moscow-colluding socialist President was removed, 46 years later. They're more angry that Pinochet killed their socialist puppy 46 years ago than they are that Russia quite likely would have used a communist toe-hold in South America to kill tens/hundreds of thousands while forming a decades-long oppressive dictatorship as they did elsewhere (including of course Vietnam and Angola), or that Sandinista socialist icon Daniel Ortega killed hundreds of Nicaraguans last year. They're more angry that Hillary's coalition no-fly zone in Libya indirectly resulted in Gaddafi's fleeing & death than they are that Gaddafi tortured & killed tens of thousands across his illustrious dictatorial career or that Gaddafi had threatened to wipe out peaceful protesters. They're more worried that Hillary supported arming Syrian dissidents and a no-fly zone that "could start World War III" than that Syria and their ally Putin have killed a couple hundred thousand civilians and used chemical weapons while pushing refugees towards Europe to destabilize it. They're more worried that neo-Nazis *might* have some marginal influence in the Ukrainian government than they are that Russia unilaterally (& illegally) annexed Crimea and recently the Azov Sea, while putting troops & weapons in Donbas.

Conservative New York Times

A Guy Called LULU — Mon, 14 Jan 2019 14:57:57 +0000

In reply to Nobody Misses the WASPs

Conservative New York Times columnist Ross Douthat is one of numerous corporate media figures to have defended Augusto Pinochet, Chile’s murderous US-backed capitalist dictator

Strikes me that the "Crazy

artappraiser — Mon, 14 Jan 2019 07:55:39 +0000

In reply to Nobody Misses the WASPs

Strikes me that the "Crazy Rich Asians" might keep WASP culture alive by appropriation if people like you no longer need them:

Burberry Releases its First Chinese New Year Campaignhttps://t.co/P2TTgt6n0F #blouinartinfo #blouin #artinfo #Burberry #ZhaoWei #ZhouDongyu #Britishluxury pic.twitter.com/zl9clxsdNk
— BLOUIN ARTINFO (@artinfodotcom) January 14, 2019

Interesting! Thanks!

Michael Maiello — Sun, 09 Dec 2018 20:19:23 +0000

In reply to Re: Brookings and UBI... I

Interesting! Thanks!

Re: Brookings and UBI... I

MG Mitchell — Sat, 08 Dec 2018 20:10:15 +0000

In reply to Nobody Misses the WASPs

Re: Brookings and UBI... I see the point you are trying to make but this is the first hit when you put those two terms in the google machine:

https://www.brookings.edu/opinions/time-to-take-basic-income-seriously/

Thank you,

Speaking of the whole Tom

artappraiser — Fri, 07 Dec 2018 00:44:17 +0000

In reply to I am reminded of that which

Speaking of the whole Tom Wolfe "Right Stuff" thing/flyboy thing, I totally buy this narrative, rings true to me:

The fly over was chilling! I truly believe this makes @realDonaldTrump so mad because he can never have any of this level of respect and love! That’s why he wanted that bogus military parade, not for the soldiers, but for him!
— Joseph Iacovella (@joeiavovella) December 6, 2018

Let me get my stick...

PeraclesPlease — Thu, 06 Dec 2018 16:47:00 +0000

In reply to Force me. I'm game.

Let me get my stick... you ain't here for the politicks, is ya.