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oh I forgot one point which

artappraiser — Tue, 11 Dec 2018 17:44:50 +0000

In reply to As long as it puts him away

oh I forgot one point which might interest you, this is one the conservative writer makes that I hadn't heard before: It allows Trump to bash Clintons for the tough on crime sentencing laws that didn't work. And that Trump is more sensible on the matter. I wasn't sure I bought that one because I hadn't seen evidence of him doing it. But then I read an article yesterday about how Cambridge Analytica data was used and it said Trump campaign floated the idea of pushing the meme to black voters that Hillary described black men as superpredators. So the meme is there, going back to the campaign, don't know whose it was, though.

As long as it puts him away

PeraclesPlease — Tue, 11 Dec 2018 17:25:18 +0000

In reply to I know, it's complicated. I

As long as it puts him away for minimum 5 years, I don't really care.

I know, it's complicated. I

artappraiser — Tue, 11 Dec 2018 17:16:21 +0000

In reply to I'm confused - the bill

I know, it's complicated. I found this conservative/libertarian guy tries to splain it, he's got most of the main points there except he left out what I think is the main one, the progenitor:

1) It's Jared's pet project. He's been working on it fuhever because his father went to prison. I think I read something somewhere he was politicking on it before he married Ivanka.

Then there's the other things the conservative writer mentions:

2) The please Der Fuhrer thing is quite operative here. The lemmings go with whatever Trump wants because he's got the base, even if it happens to be liberal..Jared convinced him it's the thing to do. This is something everyone on the left needs to keep in mind: Trump is not conservative, Trump is nuts. There are Trump's favorite narratives (i.e., "the wall") that have worked for him so long that he will never let go of them. But other times (i.e., DACA), gun regulations) he has not figured it out his favorite narrative yet, so he flips and flops. With this one he has Jared harping on him, day in, day out. So it's become part of the narcissist's favorite narratives

3) Jared's harping was solidified when Kim Kardashian/Mrs. Kanye came for a little visit on related and in support. Bingo, light bulb: he sees how he can use it to counter the accusations of racism, likes to laud it with like the visit of the young black conservative business people group or whatever. And keep Jared happy at same time. A twofer!

4) the law, very conveniently at this time, keeps getting more stuff written into in it about sensible sentencing for white collar crime and corporate crime and lobbyist crime and election law crime as well as drug-related crime. A threefer, fourfer, fivefer....

I'm confused - the bill

PeraclesPlease — Tue, 11 Dec 2018 07:55:06 +0000

In reply to GOP Sen. Rand Paul singles

I'm confused - the bill sounds like an obvious good thing, so why doe the GOP support it?

GOP Sen. Rand Paul singles

artappraiser — Tue, 11 Dec 2018 02:12:57 +0000

In reply to U.S. lawmakers to unveil revised criminal justice bill in push for final passage

GOP Sen. Rand Paul singles out McConnell on criminal justice bill, calls for public pressure on majority leader

The Senate's top Republican has not said if he will schedule a vote on the measure, backed by Trump but opposed by some conservatives, in coming weeks.

By Dartunorro Clark and Rebecca Shabad @ NBCNews.com, Dec. 10, 2018 / 2:21 PM EST

Kentucky Republican Sen. Rand Paul on Monday singled out Sen. Mitch McConnell as the one person who can make a vote on the criminal justice reform bill happen and called for public pressure on the majority leader.

Paul, speaking at the Louisville Urban League, said McConnell, the state's senior senator, is the one person who "has the power" to allow a vote on a criminal justice reform bill and said Louisville residents should call his office and say, "Please let us have this vote."

"I will tell you that we need the help of one person. The one person who had the power to allow this vote — and I'm not saying he's stopping it — but there is one person. He's from Louisville, he's fairly well known and he has the power to allow or disallow this vote," Paul said, referring to McConnell.

"There's no reason we shouldn't vote. So I would say if you're in Louisville, call and say, 'Senator McConnell, all we want is a vote'. It will pass overwhelmingly." [....]

reporters do seem surprised

artappraiser — Tue, 11 Dec 2018 02:08:40 +0000

In reply to Sen Perdue of Ga now behind

reporters do seem surprised about Perdue:

.@sendavidperdue supports criminal justice reform bill. Following Cruz's endorsement last week, the numbers are mounting.
— Jennifer Haberkorn (@jenhab) December 11, 2018

Just talked with President

artappraiser — Tue, 11 Dec 2018 02:06:18 +0000

In reply to U.S. lawmakers to unveil revised criminal justice bill in push for final passage

Just talked with President @realdonaldTrump. He strongly believes criminal justice reform bill must pass now.

He also indicated he supports putting criminal justice reform bill on year-end spending bill which must include MORE wall funding.

I agree with both.
— Lindsey Graham (@LindseyGrahamSC) December 7, 2018

Cornyn under fire from GOP as

artappraiser — Tue, 11 Dec 2018 02:04:57 +0000

In reply to U.S. lawmakers to unveil revised criminal justice bill in push for final passage

Cornyn under fire from GOP as criminal justice reform falters. Advocates for bill say he’s not doing enough, he says it’s “bizarre” to hear criticism on one of his signature issues https://t.co/QPgXD8dKOI
— Burgess Everett (@burgessev) December 11, 2018

Sen Perdue of Ga now behind

artappraiser — Tue, 11 Dec 2018 02:03:32 +0000

In reply to U.S. lawmakers to unveil revised criminal justice bill in push for final passage

Sen Perdue of Ga now behind Senate's criminal justice reform bill. He was formerly one of the leading critics despite success in this area back home. Bill must be nearing some kind of GOP tipping point.
— carl hulse (@hillhulse) December 11, 2018