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Peter, you are a fraud. When

rmrd0000 — Thu, 27 Dec 2018 03:09:26 +0000

Peter, you are a fraud. When you forgot that Republicans had control of mid-western states, you ranted about how terrible they were because of Liberal government. Once you were told that they were in Republican hands, you praise their economic prowess. Like anyone who supports Trump, you have no real core except to do what you think a Trump would do. You confront that Conservatives are a joke who only appeal to dim- witted people. If Trump realizes he needs the EU and sings their praises, you will join in the choir.

Save me, Peter - the EU is

PeraclesPlease — Thu, 27 Dec 2018 01:10:00 +0000

In reply to It's difficult to judge

Save me, Peter - the EU is holding me captive, repressing me, stealing my soul... all that cheap healthcare and 5 weeks vacation has made me weak, infected my brain like syphilis.

It's difficult to judge

Peter — Wed, 26 Dec 2018 18:57:07 +0000

In reply to geez you've disappointed me

It's difficult to judge whether Aaron is just the victim of a low resolution postmodern pseudo-education or an activist neo-Marxist revisionist fellow-traveler. Whichever is the case the simplistic view of world history and human nature displayed in his comments and corrective nostrums requires a rereading and better understanding of 20th century history and a modern look at the story of Cain and Abel.

Your EU-centric view of Erdogan's Turkey and their roundup and prosecution of the Gulenist infestation that nearly destroyed their democracy seems to show you believe the Turks would be better served by that cult of personality ruling their lives and minds. Turkey still needs and wants the economic benefits of free trade with Europe. Fortunately the failed coup and the necessary actions taken by Erdogan in its aftermath has saved them from falling into the black hole that becoming part of the degenerate EU would have inflicted on them.

I said I've give them the

Aaron Carine — Wed, 26 Dec 2018 16:25:11 +0000

In reply to Your logic is wanting -

I said I'd give them the last word, and I'll stand by that.

Your logic is wanting -

PeraclesPlease — Wed, 26 Dec 2018 13:35:41 +0000

In reply to There wouldn't have been a

Your logic is wanting - without an armistice, there would be no halt in hostilities - negotiations continued for 2 years while both sides sought to gain an advantage. Since North Korea broke the agreed border in 1950 and almost drove the South into the sea at Pusan, I don't get what a unilateral halt would have done except to encourage the North & by then both Chinese & Soviet backing that the UN (US) was weak and could be exploited again. It's not like the Vietnamese gave up hope in a half decade of waiting after the Tet Offensive to finally take Saigon.

Now I'm torn - anything that

PeraclesPlease — Wed, 26 Dec 2018 13:10:59 +0000

In reply to Iran hawks @ The Atlantic

Now I'm torn - anything that makes Bibi unhappy usually gives me a chuckle (though I admit that if that makes Lieberman happy I should likely be chagrined - call it "the asshole you know vs the asshole you don't").

As for Iran, we`ve been playing our weirdly Israel-inspired game of bluff and deception for several decades, and it continues to stink. I`m not privy to all the intelligence, but nothing has ever seemed that Iran was so close to nuclear weapons as these neocons like us to believe, and the pissing match & chicanery over money owed Iran since 1979 turned rather disgusting and continues with Trump`s lies.

Even though I don`t like Iran`s fundamentalist system and Khomeini was more a bastard than most people realize, I`m hard-pressed to believe Reagan's actions to support Iraq in the war Hussein initiated gives us moral superiority (nor does the CIA helping overthrow Mossadegh in the 50's), and forever role Iran has played in the region - which one would think they might have a right to, since everyone else plays one - I don't see it as being revolutionary as much as holding together status quo, including support for Hezbollah in Lebanon.

Anyway, I wish we would stop using Iran as our straw man and virtual punching bag, even though better for them in this position than being occupied like Afghanistan & Iraq.

more along the lines of for

artappraiser — Wed, 26 Dec 2018 06:28:48 +0000

In reply to I found interesting: Laura

more along the lines of: for Trump, anything about Iran is really just about Obama and any other domestic enemies of Trump, as is convenient:

AP FACT CHECK: Trump revisits old fictions about Iran money

By CALVIN WOODWARD yesterday

Iran hawks @ The Atlantic

artappraiser — Mon, 24 Dec 2018 17:54:56 +0000

In reply to Syria: Trump declares victory & withdrawal; "White House" adds the fine print disclaimers as usual

Iran hawks @ The Atlantic today say

Trump Delivers a Victory to Iran

The president’s decision to withdraw U.S. forces from Syria has ruined the administration’s efforts to contain the Islamic republic.

By Reuel Marc Gerecht Senior fellow at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies and Mark Dubowitz Chief executive officer for the Foundation for Defense of Democracies

including that

It is an excellent guess that Pompeo, Bolton, McMaster, and Haley were willing to apply more pressure than just sanctions, and would have given speeches to that effect if they’d been allowed to do so. Even Secretary of Defense James Mattis, who was more reticent about committing U.S. troops to an anti-Iran mission, would have likely been more forward-leaning if he had trusted Trump to stay the course in Syria and Iraq.

and Bibi is more than unhappy:

War of words escalates, Israel PM Netanyahu calls Erdogan ‘anti-Semitic dictator’

Speaking in Istanbul Sunday, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan called Netanyahu an oppressor who commits "state terror".

@ AP Dec. 23

But he's got other problems to distract him today:

Israel headed to elections as Netanyahu’s coalition dissolves parliament https://t.co/09k1KdxttE
— The Washington Post (@washingtonpost) December 24, 2018

Ah yes, that Vicky once said

PeraclesPlease — Sat, 22 Dec 2018 07:06:49 +0000

In reply to Victoria Nuland: In a single

Ah yes, that Vicky once said "Fuck the EU" and then the liberals pretended that $5 billion in total Ukraine aid over 10 years for all sorts of help was a single regime-change bucket piured in. The power of propaganda and repeated lies - and here we are, finally (or half finally, as I'm sure another awful foreign polucy disaster will ensue)

More on the Erdogan call @

artappraiser — Sat, 22 Dec 2018 06:45:05 +0000

In reply to AP has some shocking

More on the Erdogan call @ WaPo, with astounding quote:

A tumultuous week began with a phone call between Trump and the Turkish president https://t.co/w2Q4D8G1DT
— Small Wars Journal (@smallwars) December 22, 2018