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I think you mean "Bernie's

PeraclesPlease — Sat, 29 Dec 2018 19:02:53 +0000

I think you mean "Bernie's indifference to blacks". If you have to "craft a message", you're prolly floundering already.

Beto received 94% of the

rmrd0000 — Sat, 29 Dec 2018 13:36:54 +0000

In reply to "The Path to the Presidency Could Be Harder for White Democrats in 2020"

Beto received 94% of the votes of black women in Texas. His Progressive message might work nationally.

https://www.teenvogue.com/story/beto-orourke-won-texas-black-women-still-moral-compass-united-states-politics

Beto does not have Bernie’s history of being unable to craft a message that works in minority communities

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/05/us/politics/bernie-sanders-obama-mississippi.html

Just pointing out his baggage

PeraclesPlease — Sat, 29 Dec 2018 08:12:28 +0000

In reply to I nonetheless feel compelled

Just pointing out his baggage. Obama was an open slate.

I nonetheless feel compelled

artappraiser — Sat, 29 Dec 2018 03:47:54 +0000

In reply to Good luck...

I nonetheless feel compelled to point out that Betomania looks very similar to Obamamania at a similar stage of the game:

1.2 million views and counting in a few short hours https://t.co/9DmM8aYmkj
— Shane Goldmacher (@ShaneGoldmacher) December 29, 2018

And given that I really pretty much disliked Obamamania (especially as it often reminded me of a lot of memes I studied in that European 20th-Century populist cultural history undergrad course stressing the endgame of totalitarianism), I have this p.o.v. now: who am I to say?

Edit to add: look at the current banner photo on his Twitter home page! veeery interesting: certainly not afraid at this point in the game to use people of color to represent his fan base...

Good luck...

PeraclesPlease — Fri, 28 Dec 2018 23:18:00 +0000

In reply to "Third Way"and Howard Dean

Good luck...

A former city council member and three-term member of Congress, O’Rourke’s early life and career has only recently come under increased public scrutiny, partly through Republican attacks focused on his family ties.

On the city council, he was accused of conflicts of interest in 2006 for pushing an urban renewal plan involving his wealthy father-in-law, a multi-national real estate investor once described as “the richest man in El Paso.”

As a member of Congress, and an investor with an extensive portfolio, he was criticized for taking part in initial public stock offerings in Twitter and several other businesses, an ethics violation that he quickly remedied when it was brought to his attention.

Along the way his mother, who was his partner in several business ventures, ran a family furniture store that was targeted by the IRS in a $630,000 tax fraud case in 2010.

Not sure I see where going to Columbia U and then lolling and lazing around NY until he falls into an internet biz makes him a man of the people either, even before he married into dough. But if Hillary'd done it, she'd be craven and cynical. Hell, marrying a poor redneck from Arkansas was a calculating career climbing move.

"Third Way"and Howard Dean

artappraiser — Fri, 28 Dec 2018 22:59:18 +0000

In reply to "The Path to the Presidency Could Be Harder for White Democrats in 2020"

"Third Way" and Howard Dean disagree:

We have enormous respect for Gov Dean. But we disagree on this.

Democrats must say no to litmus tests, but yes to vigorous debate about whose ideas are best to beat Trump. And Sen. Sanders' ideas were crushed in the midterms - they're not the way to win. https://t.co/HmhMEj8kcv
— Third Way (@ThirdWayTweet) December 27, 2018

White candidates who try to

rmrd0000 — Fri, 28 Dec 2018 12:59:50 +0000

In reply to "The Path to the Presidency Could Be Harder for White Democrats in 2020"

White candidates who try to appease the far Left by criticizing President Obama will lose black votes. Some like Matt Stiller and David Sirota are already voicing complaints.. This is destructive.

https://www.theroot.com/word-to-the-unwise-black-voters-will-reject-any-2020-d-1831339154

As noted in the Atlantic:

A new examination from the Council of Economic Advisers credits the Obama presidency for the most aggressive and successful attempt to reduce inequality in half a century. “President Obama has overseen the largest increase in federal investment to reduce inequality since the Great Society,” the economists write.One might immediately think to dismiss such a report as shameless self-promotion from the White House. But the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office (CBO) reached the exact same conclusion in June. It found that the federal government is doing more to reduce inequality right now than any time on record, going back at least 35 years. The gap between the rich and poor is as wide as ever judging by before-tax income (e.g., wages and capital gains). But judging by after-tax income, the CBO found that income inequality is no higher than it was in 2000, and Obama’s policies have done more to reduce inequality in the last few years than any other time on record.*

https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2016/09/obamas-war-on-inequality/501620/