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Article really is a good big

artappraiser — Mon, 21 Jan 2019 22:58:54 +0000

Article really is a good big picture reminder about what he is all about isn't it?

Why isn't there someone from the left of the aisle who knows how to manipulate him as well as Ann Coulter can? All you really got to to do with him is say "shows what a loser you are", and whatever it is, he'll do the opposite. Doesn't matter if it's good or bad or him or anybody else, he wants to able to say he won. This article made me remember hearing Merv Griffin on TV talk about their dealings after the fact and he was basically saying the same thing: I let Trump think he won something and talk like he won something and I laughed all the way to the bank. And I remembered him saying it because it was in that mischievious gay way Merv had, like gossip queen, with a wink.

Edit to add: I once thought NYC boy Chuck could maninpulate him, but he's disappointed me on that front. Nancy is playing a grownup mom figure ,which as I said elsewhere, I think is good and needed, don't know if she can do both. Though the disinvitation to SOTU is a thing along those lines.

Aargh, why dont we have a

PeraclesPlease — Mon, 21 Jan 2019 20:20:51 +0000

In reply to Ask Merv Griffin, it's not

Aargh, why dont we have a like button?

Ask Merv Griffin, it's not

artappraiser — Mon, 21 Jan 2019 19:12:48 +0000

In reply to How the Shutdown Could Wreck the Economy

Ask Merv Griffin, it's not about the economy, stupid, it's about Trump:

Rather, Mr. Schwartz said, Mr. Trump’s “virtue” in negotiating was his relentlessness and lack of concern for anything but claiming victory.

“If you don’t care what the collateral damage you create is, then you have a potential advantage,” he said. “He used a hammer, deceit, relentlessness and an absence of conscience as a formula for getting what he wanted.”

NEWS ANALYSIS In Business and Governing, Trump Seeks Victory in Chaos by Russ Buttner & Maggie Haberman @ NYTimes.com, Jan. 20

example of damage going

artappraiser — Mon, 21 Jan 2019 18:23:53 +0000

In reply to How the Shutdown Could Wreck the Economy

example of damage going beyond 800,000 missing salaries:

2,500 retailers are unable to take any form of food stamps due to the government shutdown, because they need to renew EBT debit card licenses but can't. https://t.co/EMKRRphWLF
— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) January 21, 2019

Grocery store profit margins are notoriously slim, they need regular volume.

Here are your fellow MAGA

rmrd0000 — Sat, 19 Jan 2019 22:16:26 +0000

In reply to Pathetic

Here are your fellow MAGA travelers training the young to hate. A group of high school,students from a Catholic institution are encouraged by their chaperones to mock a Native American elder.

https://www.theroot.com/the-next-generation-of-maga-hat-wearing-bigots-besiege-1831894971

The MAGA hat represents a threat to minorities and Gay people. Trump had recently joked about Wounded Knee. He signals that mockery is OK.

Pathetic

rmrd0000 — Sat, 19 Jan 2019 17:08:52 +0000

In reply to RM, do you live alone? You

Pathetic

You willingly align yourself with white supremacists by supporting Trump. Your response to kidnapping children at the border was predictable and heartless. Immigration is decreasing. Homicides in the 50 biggest cities is trending downward, no need for troops.

Immigration decreasing

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/11/28/5-facts-about-illegal-immigration-in-the-u-s/

Pew Center Data documenting the decrease in crime

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/01/03/5-facts-about-crime-in-the-u-s/

Homicides decreasing in Chicago

https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/chicago-murder-rate-national-statistics-fbi-report/

You confirm my impression of you. You do not operate on facts, but fear.

MLK Day is Monday. King practiced agape love. Agape love means not returning hate with hate. Some mistake this practice for not calling out racists. King had no problem labeling racists and attacking those who gave aid and comfort to racists.

MLK defines agape

King further defined agape when he argued at the University of California at Berkeley that the concept of agape “stands at the center of the movement we are to carry on in the Southland.” It was a love that demanded that one stand up for oneself and tells those who oppress that what they were doing was wrong.

MLK On Goldwater

“The Republican Party geared its appeal and program to racism, reaction, and extremism...On the urgent issue of civil rights, Senator Goldwater represents a philosophy that is morally indefensible and socially suicidal. While not himself a racist, Mr. Goldwater articulates a philosophy which gives aid and comfort to the racist. His candidacy and philosophy would serve as an umbrella under which extremists of all stripes would stand. In the light of these facts and because of my love for America, I have no alternative but to urge every Negro and white person of goodwill to vote against Mr. Goldwater and to withdraw support from any Republican candidate that does not publicly disassociate himself from Senator Goldwater and his philosophy.”

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/this-mlk-quote-sums-up-the-rise-of-white-supremacy-post-trump_us_5875426de4b099cdb1000431

Trump is our modern Goldwater. Decent people have to distance themselves from Trump’s bans, walls, kidnapping and racism. Your diversion does not absolve your walking in lockstep with racists.

RM, do you live alone? You

Peter — Sat, 19 Jan 2019 16:26:49 +0000

In reply to Peter, you may consider the

RM, do you live alone? You are so FOS I can't imagine anyone tolerating your constant spewing. You know as well as everyone else that Obama designated the countries Trump restricted travel from because they are not our allies and had lax screening of people leaving for the US. It was a temporary restriction approved by the SCOTUS.

Every day children are taken from their criminal parents and put into protective custody at HHS just as your children would be if you committed a crime and there was no family to take them.

What is your solution to these young people killing each other en mass in the democrat controlled inner cities?

Peter, you may consider the

rmrd0000 — Sat, 19 Jan 2019 03:14:48 +0000

In reply to What I fear is the man that

Peter, you may consider the round up of black and brown citizens by Trump an over the top statement. I think that it is a possible scenario.

1. Trump issued a Muslim ban that resulted in Muslims being detained at airports. There was a large protest at JFK. Trump supporters did not lead the protests. The Resistance to Trump led the protests.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/inside-the-huge-jfk-airport-protest-over-trumps-muslim-ban-124190/

2. Trump carried out child separations at the order. Trump supporters did not lead the protests. In fact Evangelicals who support Trump criticized those who objected.

Trump’s detention

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/17/us/family-separation-trump-administration-migrants.html

Evangelicals support Trump’s action at the border despite the death of two children. Jerry Falwell spoke blasphemy when he said

A poor person never gave anyone a job. A poor person never gave anybody charity, not of any real volume. It’s just common sense to me.” He then suggested that it might be immoral for Christians not to support Trump.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/01/04/evangelicals-infallible-new-faith-gospel-trump/?utm_term=.5669fd8fe2a9

Given the silence of Trump supporters in these instances, I have no reason to believe that they would act in future events.

Trump has said that he would send fools into Chicago to quell violence. Fox News salivated

https://video.foxbusiness.com/v/5297490393001/#sp=show-clips

Trump told police to be rough when making an arrest.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/7/28/16059536/trump-cops-speech-gang-violence-long-island

Trump is in political trouble, he needs a victory. Using stopping come as a diversion from his troubles is right up his alley. He seems fixated on Chicago. The violent crime rate is decreasing in Chicago. There was a recent conviction of a Chicago officer who murdered an unarmed man. However, three other officers who covered up the murder in their reports acquitted.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/17/us/laquan-mcdonald-officers-acquitted.html

Chicago is still on edge. Sending troops into Chicago would inflame things, benefiting Tump, it endangering citizens. A great diversion. If masses of citizens were held under martial law, Trump supporters would not question Trump’s actions. They would remain on the sidelines. Just a hypothetical, but not really a stretch.

There is no reason to trust Trump supporters, they side with the authoritarians.

Expert Trump translator

artappraiser — Sat, 19 Jan 2019 01:37:59 +0000

In reply to Michael Steele & Rick Wilson:

Expert Trump translator (ghost writer of Art of The Deal) says:

Decoding Trump tweets: When he says "Never seen Republicans so unified," he means "They're beginning to turn on me."
— Tony Schwartz (@tonyschwartz) January 18, 2019

This is a good discussion in

artappraiser — Sat, 19 Jan 2019 01:35:35 +0000

In reply to Duke is a nobody, rejected by

This is a good discussion in this sub-thread. That is all.