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Marco Rubio sees Erdogan

artappraiser — Fri, 01 Feb 2019 00:46:09 +0000

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Marco Rubio sees an Erdogan problem here!

.⁦@RT_Erdogan⁩ hopes to get ⁦@realDonaldTrump⁩ to go along with his plan in #Syria. Why is he undermining @POTUS on #Venezuela by propping up Maduro? https://t.co/5lLRHwiudu
— Marco Rubio (@marcorubio) February 1, 2019

Maduro Turns to Special

artappraiser — Thu, 31 Jan 2019 08:12:45 +0000

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Maduro Turns to Special Police Force to Crush Dissent

@ NYTimes.com, Jan.30 from Caracas

A growing number of foreign governments are backing an opposition lawmaker as the rightful president of Venezuela, and the Trump administration has intensified the pressure.
President Nicolás Maduro is sending out security forces to serve as enforcers in deadly operations that are alarming even his supporters.

Venezuela suspends deadline

artappraiser — Sun, 27 Jan 2019 16:27:04 +0000

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Venezuela suspends deadline for U.S. diplomats

By ASSOCIATED PRESS 01/26/2019 06:09 PM EST

Venezuela’s government has backtracked on an order that gave U.S. Embassy personnel 72 hours to leave the country.

The Foreign Affairs Ministry said that it is now negotiating the establishment of a U.S. Interests Office in Venezuela and will allow U.S. Embassy personnel to remain in the country while talks take place [....]

at UN Security Council

artappraiser — Sun, 27 Jan 2019 02:54:23 +0000

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at UN Security Council meeting Saturday Britain, Germany, France and Spain all said on Saturday they would recognize Guaido if Maduro failed to call fresh elections within eight days, an ultimatum Russia said was “absurd” and the Venezuelan foreign minister called “childlike" and Russia warned against any military intervention,

more here @ Reuters "U.S. calls on world to 'pick a side' on Venezuela; Europeans set to recognize Guaido"

page also has video showing Venezuelan Defense Attache to U.S.has broken with Maduro Sat. afternoon, an important defection from support of Maduro

Here's more from Marco, his

artappraiser — Sat, 26 Jan 2019 07:08:52 +0000

In reply to Little Marco doing a Trump

Here's more from Marco, his spin on the situation:

Here is why Trump cares about #Venezuela:
- Mass migration is destabilizing #Colombia a key anti-drug partner
- Maduro trafficking cocaine into U.S.
- Maduro has asked #Putin to put naval & air base in our hemisphere
- Maduro provides operational space to Hezbollah & Iran pic.twitter.com/sufTIapRFr
— Marco Rubio (@marcorubio) January 25, 2019

Official convicted over Iran

artappraiser — Sat, 26 Jan 2019 07:06:42 +0000

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Official convicted over Iran-Contra scandal appointed to help 'restore democracy' in Venezuela

Elliott Abrams withheld information from Congress over secret funding of paramilitaries

By Andrew Buncombe @ TheIndependent.co.uk, 4 hours ago

The Trump administration has announced that Elliott Abrams, who was convicted over the Iran-Contra scandal in which the Ronald Reagan administration secretly funded paramilitary groups in Nicaragua, will lead the US’s efforts to press for democracy in Venezuela.

Secretary of state Mike Pompeo said the 71-year-old would oversee Washington’s outreach, after Donald Trump declared he would recognise Venezuelan opposition leader Juan Guaido, and not elected president Nicolas Maduro, as the nation’s legitimate ruler.

“Elliott will be a true asset to our mission to help the Venezuelan people fully restore democracy and prosperity to their country,” Mr Pompeo said, according to Reuters [....]

Little Marco doing a Trump

artappraiser — Sat, 26 Jan 2019 07:03:07 +0000

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Little Marco doing a Trump thing with his base?

This is a big deal.

But even bigger things are yet to come. https://t.co/4ypq6Ph3x4
— Marco Rubio (@marcorubio) January 25, 2019

Jeez you are such an ass. Ok,

ocean-kat — Sat, 26 Jan 2019 02:55:22 +0000

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Jeez you are such an ass. Ok, what crippling sanctions did Bush put in place that attempted "to change the situation by bankrupting the people and starving them in the hopes they would rise up against him?" The only reason the socialist revolution of Chavez lasted so long was because the price of oil was high and the US did nothing to impede Venezuela from selling it. It's thick heavy crude and the US has almost all the refineries capable of handling it. If Bush had sanctioned Venezuela like it did Iran and Iraq the US alone could have destroyed the economy. But it didn't. You are fucking clueless. Or explain how I'm wrong. List the sanctions put in place by Bush. Explain how the collapse of the economy and the lack of food was caused by the US and not by the failure of socialism when faced with lower oil prices.

I think I see your problem

A Guy Called LULU — Sat, 26 Jan 2019 02:19:14 +0000

In reply to I'll admit I haven't been

I think I see your problem in our 'failure to communicate'. From the middle of my comment you are responding to, my words. Direct quote:

If he were a right wing dictator of Venezuela I would still not try to change the situation by bankrupting the people and starving them in the hopes they would rise up against him. Third sentence: I was against our treatment of Venezuela all thru Obama"s term but then I would hardly call Obama a progressive on foreign policy.

In first sentence I am saying how, in principle, I would not use sanctions if they are aimed at changing the leadership through the main pain being laid on the population. In the next sentence, after a break that clearly marks the change in subject, I am responding to your claim that I would change my mind on this other subject one way or the other depending on whether I liked the President. I did not accuse Obama 0f crippling sanctions in this case, I think he mostly just carried on with established policy and ratcheted it up just a bit. But I think I can see why you went wrong..

Obama was mostly a placeholder in this area of policy as far as I can see. He never backed of off the aggressive anti-Venezuela policies of the Shrub administration as I recall. I am confident that you have heard of the ratchet theory. I think that broadly speaking that this is an example .

I'll admit I haven't been

ocean-kat — Fri, 25 Jan 2019 21:44:45 +0000

In reply to Mostly ditto too but for a

I'll admit I haven't been following the story in Venezuela comprehensively and deeply. But to the degree I've been following the story I see no crippling sanctions during the Obama administration that would in any way bankrupt the people or starve them. There were no economic sanctions on the country's ability to trade in particular no sanctions on the sale of oil. All I read about was sanctions against some government officials accused of human rights violations.

It's seems very clear to me that there were serious violations of human and civil rights in Venezuela and these government officials likely responsible. What response do you think the US should make? Nothing? Sanctions against some individuals is about the most benign response our government could make. What so called crippling sanctions are you talking about that perhaps I missed? In what way did the Obama administration attempt to change the situation by bankrupting and starving the people? Sanctions on several government officials would in no way seriously affect the economy of the country or the health and welfare of the mass of the people.