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you've got to give to Pelosi

artappraiser — Mon, 28 Jan 2019 21:48:09 +0000

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you've got to give to Pelosi that she really really got her act together after many years learning from bad reactions. This sea change in approval is amazing. To me it really says something about the value of age and experience as long as the person still has their full faculties:

“A few months ago, more than ⅓ of Democrats wanted new leadership in the House… They may have changed their tune.”

Nancy Pelosi approval among Democrats

• November 2018: 29% approve vs. 16% disapprove

• January 2019: 68% approve vs. 10% disapprovehttps://t.co/bIU4A9sv0k
— Frank Luntz (@FrankLuntz) January 28, 2019

She's rolling a slow-build

Michael Wolraich — Mon, 28 Jan 2019 04:03:06 +0000

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She's rolling a slow-build impeachment strategy.

According to Jonathan Swan at

Michael Wolraich — Mon, 28 Jan 2019 04:00:16 +0000

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According to Jonathan Swan at Axios, this is more less what happened.

In short: Trump saw a Republican Senate poised to abandon him. Better to cave on his own terms, and in his own words, than watch both parties hang him out to dry.

"I can tell you exactly what happened,” one Republican senator texted me. “The mood at Senate Republican lunch on Thursday resembled what the mood must've been on the Union lines at 4 pm at First Bull Run. I'm amazed only six [Republicans] voted for Schumer's bill. The message from that lunch by VP, Shahira [Knight] and Mitch [McConnell] to POTUS was, it's over. They'll be 70 votes within 48 hours."

White House officials told me they knew their momentum was fading.

PS I've always found Axios's narrative style totally bizarre yet oddly readable

Hey AA - haven't been lurking

Obey — Sun, 27 Jan 2019 17:17:57 +0000

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Hey AA - haven't been lurking much lately due to work. But I haven't got much input on the issues of the day. Maybe in future. When the election heats up and whatnot. I wanted to just show my appreciation for that unique ability of Dagblog to produce great great threads. ;)

Excerpt on the blame game,

artappraiser — Sun, 27 Jan 2019 12:15:24 +0000

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Excerpt on the blame game, from

Nice work here by WashPost crew https://t.co/V2atWQeVjh
— Eric Lipton (@EricLiptonNYT) January 26, 2019

[....] Kushner, who Trump jokingly says is to the “left,” pitched a broader immigration deal and had faith that he could negotiate a grand bargain in the coming weeks, according to people familiar with his discussions. He pitched a big deal to Latino groups this week and also with members of the Koch network, the people said.

Trump, who fretted about the shutdown’s impact on the economy and his personal popularity, cast about for blame and pointed fingers at his staff — including Kushner — for failing to resolve the impasse, according to aides.

At a meeting Wednesday with conservative groups, the president accused former House speaker Paul D. Ryan (R-Wis.) of having “screwed him” by not securing border wall money when Republicans had the majority, according to one attendee, Mark Krikorian, executive director of the Center for Immigration Studies. He said Ryan should have gotten him money before he left but he had no juice and had “gone fishing,” according to two attendees.

Ryan had warned the president against a shutdown and told him it would be politically disastrous, according to a person familiar with their conversations.[....]

[....] On Thursday night, the president grew annoyed at Mick Mulvaney when the acting White House chief of staff talked with him about policy prescriptions for the next three weeks and what an eventual deal might look like, according to one person familiar with the conversation [....]

[......Rep. Peter] King faulted the conservative Freedom Caucus, led by Reps. Mark Meadows (R-N.C.) and Jim Jordan (R-Ohio), both Trump confidants, for steering the president in the wrong direction.

“I hope he ignores them for the next three weeks,” King said. “It’s the charge of the light brigade. It’s the valley of death" [....]

When I saw this, it made me

artappraiser — Sun, 27 Jan 2019 11:17:49 +0000

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When I saw this, it made me wonder: where is Peter (unverified) and what is his take?

Trump is a broken man. It's over for him.
— Mike Cernovich (@Cernovich) January 25, 2019

Hi Obey, just want to say it

artappraiser — Sun, 27 Jan 2019 11:11:34 +0000

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Hi Obey, just want to say it is a pleasure to see you say somethin' instead of just lurking, appreciation in case it may have been breaking a self-control rule. No need to respond.

I just wanted to say this is

Obey — Sun, 27 Jan 2019 10:27:15 +0000

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I just wanted to say this is an awesome comment thread! I've been out of the loop on the shutdown and this has been a more entertaining and educational summary than Colbert or Seth Meyer provide.

Along the lines of it can

artappraiser — Sun, 27 Jan 2019 02:10:48 +0000

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Along the lines of it can always be worse, I read that Ginni Thomas and her group is apparently a little too kookoo for Trump

....according to three people with direct knowledge of the events.

For 60 minutes Mr. Trump sat, saying little but appearing taken aback, the three people said, as the group also accused White House aides of blocking Trump supporters from getting jobs in the administration.

It is unusual for the spouse of a sitting Supreme Court justice to have such a meeting with a president, and some close to Mr. Trump said it was inappropriate for Ms. Thomas to have asked to meet with the head of a different branch of government....

McConnell is a professional

NCD — Sat, 26 Jan 2019 19:42:40 +0000

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McConnell is a professional bog creature, there to con the fetus obsessed maggats while creating an anti-democratic authoritarian theocracy that loots the Treasury for the rich, cages brown children and anoints serial adulterers, liars and assorted grifters and tax evaders as Bible prophesied saviors of the race of bigots and yokels who elect them.