dagblog - Comments for "‘Insult to China’: A Model’s Freckles Spark an Online Storm" http://dagblog.com/link/insult-china-model-s-freckles-spark-online-storm-27494 Comments for "‘Insult to China’: A Model’s Freckles Spark an Online Storm" en Assume Ms. Fey had her wicked http://dagblog.com/comment/265167#comment-265167 <a id="comment-265167"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/265162#comment-265162">hah, wonder if it was male or</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Assume Ms. Fey had her wicked talons in that one - kind of the perfect age as well for maximum scornful retribution.</p> </div></div></div> Thu, 21 Feb 2019 18:31:27 +0000 PeraclesPlease comment 265167 at http://dagblog.com hah, wonder if it was male or http://dagblog.com/comment/265162#comment-265162 <a id="comment-265162"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/265161#comment-265161">Had watched it before, but</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>hah, wonder if it was male or female writer who thought that one up....</p> </div></div></div> Thu, 21 Feb 2019 16:17:35 +0000 artappraiser comment 265162 at http://dagblog.com Had watched it before, but http://dagblog.com/comment/265161#comment-265161 <a id="comment-265161"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/265131#comment-265131">I stumbled across this</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Had watched it before, but got distracted by "Meet Your Second Wife" on the rec list - looks like I gotta get busy...</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed" height="261px" width="464px"><iframe allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="261px" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/MJEAGd1bQuc" width="464px"></iframe></div> </div></div></div> Thu, 21 Feb 2019 10:12:47 +0000 PeraclesPlease comment 265161 at http://dagblog.com My GenX baby brother informed http://dagblog.com/comment/265151#comment-265151 <a id="comment-265151"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/insult-china-model-s-freckles-spark-online-storm-27494">‘Insult to China’: A Model’s Freckles Spark an Online Storm</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>My GenX baby brother informed me this evening via email that there is a new category of cultural appropriation in Milwaukee which he thinks is cute. I googled, and sure enough it's real: <a href="https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1VFKB_enUS717US717&amp;biw=1366&amp;bih=665&amp;tbm=isch&amp;sa=1&amp;ei=R1ZuXMHgBMSfjgSe_KPoBg&amp;q=black+women+dirndls&amp;oq=black+women+dirndls&amp;gs_l=img.12...97352.98229..100342...0.0..0.100.378.3j1......1....1..gws-wiz-img.8m5IxsDREuI">black women dirndls</a></p> <p>Edit to fix link</p> </div></div></div> Thu, 21 Feb 2019 07:35:54 +0000 artappraiser comment 265151 at http://dagblog.com Cheese heads lead to cheese http://dagblog.com/comment/265160#comment-265160 <a id="comment-265160"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/265151#comment-265151">My GenX baby brother informed</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Cheese heads lead to cheese waists - shoulda known this was comin'</p> </div></div></div> Thu, 21 Feb 2019 07:31:31 +0000 PeraclesPlease comment 265160 at http://dagblog.com hyperbole alert - ummm, yes, http://dagblog.com/comment/265142#comment-265142 <a id="comment-265142"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/265140#comment-265140">I watched it, I thought she</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>hyperbole alert - ummm, yes, quite different than having bound feet. maybe the messaging is slightly similar, but 1) there was no "power" in bound feet, and 2) the physical effects to feet, back, etc of bound feet were atrocious, especially of course in old age if they managed to make it.</p> <p>Reminded me of Rasputina's description of a corset crushing the kidneys &amp; rib cage, which naturally led to this lovely tribute to Rosemary Kennedy, the famous family's poster child pioneer of 50's lobotomies.</p> <p> </p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed" height="348px" width="618px"><iframe allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="348px" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/IfMPPXCz13s" width="618px"></iframe></div> <p>Will let Melora explain herself...</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed" height="418px" width="520px"><iframe allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="418px" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/kNGv82Yfveo" width="520px"></iframe></div> <p> </p> <p> </p> </div></div></div> Wed, 20 Feb 2019 14:18:00 +0000 PeraclesPlease comment 265142 at http://dagblog.com I watched it, I thought she http://dagblog.com/comment/265140#comment-265140 <a id="comment-265140"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/265131#comment-265131">I stumbled across this</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>I watched it, I thought she was good precisely because it was very simple and straightforward, not your usual complex TED fare. Would be good to show teen girls.</p> <p>I especially loved loved loved the changing of the shoes, but that's a personal peccadillo. Really irks me how spike heels have for more than a decade now signfied not just sexy female as they used to, but have moved on to some kind of sicko sign of power, that even someone like Nancy Pelosi wears. This trend is way out of control! Drives me nuts. I'm not the kind that was ever against them for like dressing up for a party or for sex play in the bedroom when one wants to role play ultra female. But they should not have moved on to be respected in the workplace as like a power symbol, and this is horrible. I am at a loss why it happened. Not just because they are painful for all day wear, destructive to the feet and spine, but many women simply cannot even wear them at all, puts them at a disadvantage. Puts the handicapped at a worse disadvantage, is a pile on for them. I don't get it, I especially don't get why liberal women are doing it. It's plain wrong to have what used to be labeled "fuck me pumps" as part of many workplace dynamics. To me, Melania wearing them all the time is like the worst thing she does as first lady, I'm serious, it's a hideous message, terrible semiology going on there. Again, nothing wrong with wearing them at a party or a dinner, but to visit schoolkids in Africa? Noooooo. Wearing them all the time, it's really no different than having bound feet!</p> </div></div></div> Wed, 20 Feb 2019 12:23:03 +0000 artappraiser comment 265140 at http://dagblog.com One thing that is absurd is http://dagblog.com/comment/265137#comment-265137 <a id="comment-265137"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/insult-china-model-s-freckles-spark-online-storm-27494">‘Insult to China’: A Model’s Freckles Spark an Online Storm</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>One thing that is absurd is for anyone to suggest to blame this on western influence. It is very ancient and class based. Freckles means being out in the sun, a peasant. China also developed very refined aesthetics early on, meant to control and change nature, i.e. compare the obsession with glazes on porcelains or controlling nature to exacting specification in gardens. Similar was applied to ideals of female beauty. Things like foot binding start in the 10th century....Etc. the general effect of being an ethereal being who did not labor manually was preferred. (Similar was the long fingernails on upper class males.)</p> <p>There is a summary on skin tone on wikipedia's entry<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_ideals_of_female_beauty#Skin_tone"> Chinese ideals of female beauty:</a></p> <blockquote> <p>Skin tone[<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Chinese_ideals_of_female_beauty&amp;action=edit&amp;section=5" title="Edit section: Skin tone">edit</a>]</p> <p>Skin tone is one aspect of Chinese beauty that is in contrast with the Western <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beauty" title="Beauty">beauty</a> ideal. In China, the majority of women genetically have tanner skin. Despite this there is an obsession among Chinese women to have lighter skin complexion. This is far different than most Western countries which show preference in women with tan and darker skin. This beauty ideal of fair-skin dates back as early as the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Han_Dynasty" title="Han Dynasty">Han Dynasty</a> which controlled China from 206 B.C. – 220 A.D. During this time a woman’s skin tone was known to indicate social class. Many women of the lower class worked outside in the fields, exposing them to more sun, and ultimately making their skin darker. On the other hand, the light skin had become a representation of social prestige and the lack of physical labor. Due to this perception, there are a lot of pressures on women in China to stay indoors and not venture outside to work or play sports such as basketball and soccer.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_ideals_of_female_beauty#cite_note-10">[10]</a><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_ideals_of_female_beauty#cite_note-11">[11]</a></p> <p>Due to this obsession of obtaining fair-skin the Asia-Pacific region has become the world’s largest market for skin-whitening products. These products include various creams and pills which claim to reduce a pigment called <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melanin" title="Melanin">melanin</a> in the skin.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_ideals_of_female_beauty#cite_note-12">[12]</a> Products such as these advertise fairer-skin as “beautiful” and superior to darker skin. The downside to this is not only that it makes women of darker complexion feel inferior, but that these skin whitening products can come with many risky side effects. The active ingredient in many of these products is mercury which has been known to cause serious psychiatric, neurological, and kidney problems.[<em><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed" title="Wikipedia:Citation needed">citation needed</a></em>]</p> </blockquote> <p>If anything, influence would be the other way around, though the class prejudice against having skin colored by working in the sun has been in many cultures.  I.E., when did parasols start being de rigeur among European upper class? One sees them already in very ancient Chinese paintings.</p> </div></div></div> Wed, 20 Feb 2019 09:21:09 +0000 artappraiser comment 265137 at http://dagblog.com Freckles are easier to pick http://dagblog.com/comment/265133#comment-265133 <a id="comment-265133"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/insult-china-model-s-freckles-spark-online-storm-27494">‘Insult to China’: A Model’s Freckles Spark an Online Storm</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Freckles are easier to pick up w facial recognition to see if Uighur and thus terrorist. Perhaps they can go to marking all questionable citizens for faster puckup &amp; detention.</p> <p>I do find myself wondering what actual percent and raw numbers in this he opined/she opined "scandal" - glad it wasn't a freckled-faced Asian eating pizza with chopsticks.</p> </div></div></div> Wed, 20 Feb 2019 06:43:41 +0000 PeraclesPlease comment 265133 at http://dagblog.com I stumbled across this http://dagblog.com/comment/265131#comment-265131 <a id="comment-265131"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/insult-china-model-s-freckles-spark-online-storm-27494">‘Insult to China’: A Model’s Freckles Spark an Online Storm</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>I stumbled across this tedtalk by model Cameron Russell some years ago. It was somewhat interesting considering it's a subject I don't really care about.</p> <p> </p> <div class="media_embed" height="420px" width="680px"><iframe allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="420px" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/KM4Xe6Dlp0Y" width="680px"></iframe></div> <p> </p> <p> </p> </div></div></div> Wed, 20 Feb 2019 06:34:47 +0000 ocean-kat comment 265131 at http://dagblog.com