dagblog - Comments for "Can the elites reverse Brexit?" http://dagblog.com/link/can-elites-reverse-brexit-27564 Comments for "Can the elites reverse Brexit?" en Strikes me as an excellent http://dagblog.com/comment/265858#comment-265858 <a id="comment-265858"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/265855#comment-265855">One thing I&#039;ve always thought</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Strikes me as an excellent way, is like a seminar in thinking to discuss in a class with a teacher leading instead of reading some crap by Uncle Harry on Facebook. Hidden within a current event example, instead of doing theoreticals which make it onerous for many. Would give them a feeling that their opinion matters. But then Education (capital E) people have gotten so into rules rules rules, vetted and tested standard curricula with proven results, none of that free wheeling stuff off the cuff like in college with wild professors....and it would make them feel like their opinion is important if well formed, that they are not nobody.</p> </div></div></div> Thu, 14 Mar 2019 11:25:01 +0000 artappraiser comment 265858 at http://dagblog.com One thing I've always thought http://dagblog.com/comment/265855#comment-265855 <a id="comment-265855"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/265443#comment-265443">Have never seen (Putin- style</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>One thing I've always thought was that current affairs should be the driving force and a large part of the curriculum. When the summit with NK was the major news story the history of north and south Korea and the US and other nations involvement should be a major focus. When Venezuela is the top story the focus would shift to that. It would be difficult because curriculum would need to be created in the moment but it could be done especially now with virtually every student having a computer.</p> </div></div></div> Thu, 14 Mar 2019 07:03:06 +0000 ocean-kat comment 265855 at http://dagblog.com Editor of the Financial Times http://dagblog.com/comment/265852#comment-265852 <a id="comment-265852"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/265846#comment-265846">and the answer is: noooo-body</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Editor of the Financial Times:</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">Brexiter hopes of clean Brexit, ie crashing out on schedule on March 29 are shattered. Rightly. Now we need a long extension and a Brexit rethink is <a href="https://twitter.com/FT?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@FT</a> view</p> — Lionel Barber (@lionelbarber) <a href="https://twitter.com/lionelbarber/status/1105913829068812290?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 13, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">Welcome to Westminster Fantasia. May govt now holds three line whip against its own motion. All explanations on an envelope <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BrexitShambles?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#BrexitShambles</a></p> — Lionel Barber (@lionelbarber) <a href="https://twitter.com/lionelbarber/status/1105919111341715456?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 13, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">In the Weatminster fog, two tentative conclusions. No deal Brexit far less likely which is why sterling soaring. May deal - proclaimed dead - is just resting and will be Put again to Parliament. Hard Brexiters wobbling big time</p> — Lionel Barber (@lionelbarber) <a href="https://twitter.com/lionelbarber/status/1105947849316093952?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 13, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Thu, 14 Mar 2019 04:33:02 +0000 artappraiser comment 265852 at http://dagblog.com and the answer is: noooo-body http://dagblog.com/comment/265846#comment-265846 <a id="comment-265846"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/can-elites-reverse-brexit-27564">Can the elites reverse Brexit?</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>and the answer is: noooo-body can fixit:</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">Going back to US next week and frankly I may claim asylum <a href="https://t.co/5f60vcJggm">https://t.co/5f60vcJggm</a></p> — Julia Macfarlane (@juliamacfarlane) <a href="https://twitter.com/juliamacfarlane/status/1105915898156802050?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 13, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Thu, 14 Mar 2019 01:48:36 +0000 artappraiser comment 265846 at http://dagblog.com This is worth a glance and http://dagblog.com/comment/265449#comment-265449 <a id="comment-265449"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/265447#comment-265447">Talking UK style edjumaction.</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>This is worth a glance and hopeful on topic. By taking it outside politics, study suggests that what people need to be taught is making wise choices about who to trust for info., when and how to switch off emotions:</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote height="" width=""> <p>“When people in Hawaii received a false alarm text that said ‘Ballistic missile threat inbound to Hawaii’ in 2018, the result was not panic. Instead, they sought information to verify their risk and help them decide what to do next.” <a href="https://t.co/e0ju6jqotH">https://t.co/e0ju6jqotH</a></p> — David Wallace-Wells (@dwallacewells) <a href="https://twitter.com/dwallacewells/status/1101124557476413440?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 28, 2019</a></blockquote> </div> <p>Edit to add: this is where Rwandan hate radio and Orson Welles 1938 "War of the Worlds" radio broadcast meet and making current results look like progress.</p> </div></div></div> Fri, 01 Mar 2019 13:04:20 +0000 artappraiser comment 265449 at http://dagblog.com Talking UK style edjumaction. http://dagblog.com/comment/265447#comment-265447 <a id="comment-265447"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/265445#comment-265445">They dropped Civics?</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Talking UK style edjumaction. Which decided long ago that it's no use force feeding a certain class, let them move on to plumbing courses (until the Polish plumbers invade). Times have changed. They look at their "computer" screens as much as other folks.</p> </div></div></div> Fri, 01 Mar 2019 11:59:18 +0000 artappraiser comment 265447 at http://dagblog.com They dropped Civics? http://dagblog.com/comment/265445#comment-265445 <a id="comment-265445"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/265443#comment-265443">Have never seen (Putin- style</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>They dropped Civics? seriously?</p> </div></div></div> Fri, 01 Mar 2019 11:47:18 +0000 PeraclesPlease comment 265445 at http://dagblog.com Have never seen (Putin- style http://dagblog.com/comment/265443#comment-265443 <a id="comment-265443"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/can-elites-reverse-brexit-27564">Can the elites reverse Brexit?</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Have never seen (Putin- style, but now can be used by anyone) troll-bot thing as a tool explained better. It is also helpful for us in the U.S. to see "voter supression" in action removed from racial issues. The most fruitful way to use it is to target low info. voters cynical about politics and politicians:</p> <blockquote> <p>If they lead the pro-EU side in a new referendum, we will be destroyed. A well-funded alliance will deploy its expertise and, boy, will they throw in everything they can, and more, to secure Brexit.</p> <p>Their key skill is in the dark arts of voter suppression. <a href="https://www.opendemocracy.net/brexitinc/paul-hilder/they-were-planning-on-stealing-election-explosive-new-tapes-reveal-cambridg" title="">Paul Hilder</a> has set out an authoritative analysis of how it works. Voter suppression uses <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/mar/17/facebook-cambridge-analytica-kogan-data-algorithm" title="">psychographic algorithms</a> to identify key segments of the population. They are then forensically targeted with quick videos showing, for example, Blair on the People’s Vote platform and then on a ski ride in Davos, calling for a new referendum – with his net worth as the subtitle. The message: that the referendum is a rip-off and “they are all the same”. Market testing reveals what images and phrases “work”.<u> The aim is not to convert, but to disillusion and thereby turn young voters especially into abstainers.</u></p> </blockquote> <p>It really does strike at the heart of small d democracy, as it suggests that those with a certain low education level and/or with little life experience can always  be easily manipulated to abstain from voting.</p> <p>One thing this shows is that dropping civics type classes at high school level for those on a working-class track should no longer be an option.It's going to come back and bite if governments stop trying and just give up on the front of trying to teach people to think critically about what they read and see. Regulating entities like Facebook can only go so far, there will always be another route.</p> </div></div></div> Fri, 01 Mar 2019 11:43:31 +0000 artappraiser comment 265443 at http://dagblog.com