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fun stuff! she's very

artappraiser — Mon, 04 Mar 2019 15:01:36 +0000

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Fun stuff! She's very talented at the pop psychology thing. Nothing scientific about it, of course, but great intuition and blunt as hell when she feels she's figured it out. I was impressed with things like this, no beating around the bush, get straight to it:

So it gave him an appetite for royal trappings. Do you think it also gave him a sense of always being an outsider?
It’s two sides of the same thing. The entire country is now living in this man’s conflict between a desire to be royalty and a profound feeling that he doesn’t belong.

People who feel left out can probably smell that insecurity on him and identify with it.
Exactly.

What about his father’s nostalgia for the German homeland and the sense of being persecuted as Germans. How much should we read into that, about Aryan tendencies?
Trump picked up from his family the idea that German blood is cleaner — he’s said stuff like when Germans have parades nobody has to clean up after them. German superiority is certainly a part of his sense of self.

and on Melania, she gets right to what we were bouncing around with, succinctly:

But what were her choices before? You flirt around the Melania escort question. The material you cite about the sexualization of women in Russia is amazing.
Russian and Eastern European women were sexualized the second that the Berlin Wall fell. The people of the former Soviet Union were looking across the wall at ads with scantily clad women selling cars and clothes. They equated capitalism with buying sex — that’s Melania’s generation.

And there was a thin line between the pageant and modeling world and being an escort. But if you’re asking specifically about whether Melania was an escort? All I can say is that I don’t know what her career was like between Slovenia and showing up in New York. When the Daily Mail was sued for looking into that, that avenue of questioning was closed down.

Some more background Donald

PeraclesPlease — Mon, 04 Mar 2019 09:57:43 +0000

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Some more background Donald scuttle - his mum a poor Scottish immigrant taken on as cleaning staff in the Carnegie home - close to fame & fortune but not born of it.
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/10/nina-burleigh-golden-handcuffs-th...

Which for a Russian - find me

PeraclesPlease — Mon, 04 Mar 2019 05:53:00 +0000

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Which for a Russian - find me the fur and perfume - is something. She's a nobody now, a factory worker maybe. Gone to ground.

But Melania's story - a 26-year-old (I.e. very old for modelling) who sits at home "sewing" trying to "make it" (i'm thinking Eyes of Laura Mars/Helmut Newton, but she's a bit later - pretty much Gaultier/Lagerfeld/Alexander McQueen/John Galliano...) - but she only has 1 story, meeting Trump - funny, eh?

So what was her day job these 10 years, where's her output if she wasn't a NY "factory girl" like Edie making the rounds? And notice most models on the scene tend to get pretty damn fluent in English after 10 years - not this Slovene who "speaks 5 languages". It's a mystery in plain sight. 1 notable achievement - runnerup in a Slovenian Look of the Year contest at 22 - not Milan, not Paris..

Have a look at her NYC sponsor who "discovered" her at 25. Happened to be a friend of Trump's, sold off his father's business to Berlusconi (famous for his pool parties with underage girls with other EU leaders), pioneered internet rade for finding models, later got into real estate... could be a lot under the hood, a bit hard to say. Still, why did he bring an unexceptional 25-year-old to NYC?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paolo_Zampolli

You are a Nastya fan, and I

artappraiser — Mon, 04 Mar 2019 03:39:29 +0000

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You are a Nastya news fan. I didn't follow as much but from what I did, I think of her as the same Holly Golightly type! Just scamming whatever to get with the rich and famous and find sugar daddies. Sure they will do sex for money, but that's just one option to get by and there are lots of them.

One interesting thing I noticed when I watched part of Nastya's recent interview by some western journalist about what the powers that be did and said to her in Russia: she purposefully dressed unsexy, she had like a plaid flannel shirt on and a pair of jeans and unstyled hair. Like: time to switch to a new, very different gig.

on the one hand it seems

artappraiser — Mon, 04 Mar 2019 03:30:37 +0000

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on the one hand it seems mysterious, on the other hand, it's like almost too too a stereotype Russian emigre "babe" story from pop culture stories like Soprano's or Shameless. Starts even before the wall came down. Where they come to find a western husband, the best monied one they can get. And they almost always got out by starting modeling in the home country. Once they get out, they get by however they can until they find the husband. And I don't mean just "escort" work. I mean working any kind of angle they can outside a regular salaried job. Just like the Holly Golightly character in Breakfast at Tiffany's, she has no income, she always manages to scram some up one way or another with her charm. I always thought: it's like they all read it or something! Where did they get the idea that is what awaited them in the west?

Comes to US at 26 years old,

PeraclesPlease — Sun, 03 Mar 2019 23:26:26 +0000

In reply to Cover Girl: Where's Melania's modeling card?

Comes to US at 26 years old, can't hit the party scene, no modelling (zed) card - what *does* she do? (over 10 years)

https://nypost.com/2005/01/16/how-shy-fox-bagged-the-billionaire/