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There can be frustration if

PeraclesPlease — Tue, 23 Apr 2019 01:16:00 +0000

There can be frustration if an authority seems to misread something obvious - certainly not "all", but important events.

However in this case I see Wittes *does* cover Barr's inaccuracies - perhaps not in The Atlantic, but at Lawfare - as just one excerpt: https://www.lawfareblog.com/notes-mueller-report-reading-diary#Introduct...

As a preliminary matter, I want to stress that Mueller’s section is difficult to reconcile with Barr’s account of Mueller’s reasoning at his press conference Thursday morning.

Still, it's been a common trick through all of this from various sources - "just wait until X, you'll see it was nothing" - and then when X comes, "oh, but it wasn't Y so it doesn't matter..." People who follow this are restless for some closure, at least feom one stage to another, from *somewhere*. Like my Republican thread - "yes, it does deserve an impeachment inquiry". Because Trump's 42% oddly never budges - a flatlined corpse of approval.

Serious debate on topic:

artappraiser — Tue, 23 Apr 2019 01:00:58 +0000

In reply to Yes with rmrd - the initial

Serious debate on topic:

Color me bewildered by this whole exchange—and the 300 others like it. Why people think they are entitled to assign me writing and prioritize my projects is utterly beyond me. Right now I am trying to make sense of the Mueller report for the benefit of my readers. https://t.co/iwgVMx05ji
— Benjamin Wittes (@benjaminwittes) April 23, 2019

For those who want to use the phrase "benefit of the doubt" to imply that I was giving Barr some generic character reference, rather than making a narrow point about a very specific matter, you're being silly and distortive.
— Benjamin Wittes (@benjaminwittes) April 23, 2019

And for those who think this has anything to do with Brett Kavanaugh, I really can’t help you. And I’m not going to try.
— Benjamin Wittes (@benjaminwittes) April 23, 2019

Does all journalism have to first and foremost have a political agenda?

She's got a lengthy

PeraclesPlease — Fri, 19 Apr 2019 04:33:28 +0000

In reply to BTW Marcy Wheeler was on

She's got a lengthy methodical twitter thread going - lots of gems. All of Mueller's intelligence work is missing in Barr's version.

Yes with rmrd - the initial

PeraclesPlease — Fri, 19 Apr 2019 04:31:07 +0000

In reply to WSJ just ran across because

Yes with rmrd - the initial stuff on websites after the presser basically repeated Barr's claims, and it was only later that the pushback began to appear.

Tweeters have been warning MSM to prepare to not get fooled again - their coverage of Barr's summary/not-summary was shameful - and the right always uses that 1st response headlines adrenaline as a boost. Look at how many times there's a "Trump says X" headline? Great PR even if the subsequent article says he's wrong - the die is cast in the headline.

Fortunately the analysis that followed and then the subsequent headlines all bash Barr and Trump pretty well.

The initial response was

rmrd0000 — Fri, 19 Apr 2019 03:15:14 +0000

In reply to WSJ just ran across because

The initial response was stenography of the Barr presser. The pushback came later. One would have expected the initial response to point out how uncharacteristic Barr’s appearance, especially without Mueller, was for an Attorney General. That came later.

BTW Marcy Wheeler was on

artappraiser — Fri, 19 Apr 2019 01:59:05 +0000

In reply to Media fooled again: "cooperation" vs head fakes

BTW Marcy Wheeler was on MSNBC's "All In with Chris Hayes" this evening; she's a frequent guest there; can't find a video yet.

More than a year after the above, the NYTimes published this op-ed by her, it's fun to check out how she did with her predictions:

Did Cohen Give a Peek at the Mueller Report?

The special counsel is still hiding events that lie at the core of his investigation — events that involve the president directly.

By Marcy Wheeler (Ms. Wheeler writes about national security at the website Emptywheel.)

Feb. 28, 2019

WSJ just ran across because

artappraiser — Thu, 18 Apr 2019 23:56:40 +0000

In reply to Many accounts led with the

WSJ just ran across because Maggie Haberman retweeted.

So I googled "Maggie Haberman Bill Barr" and these are the first page of 133,000 results. Overall I didn't see that much positive about him at all beyond things like "he used to be a fine lawyer"

CNN's Toobin: Bill Barr May Have Spent The Last 20 Years Watching ...

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/.../cnns_toobin_bill_barr_may_have_spent_the_last_2...

▶ 1:56

10 hours ago

On Wednesday's edition of "Anderson Cooper 360" on CNN, New York Times White House correspondent ...

Chuck Todd: Now It Looks Like Trump Is Colluding With Bill Barr ...

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/.../chuck_todd_now_it_looks_like_trump_is_colludin...

▶ 2:51

10 hours ago

... correspondent Maggie Haberman and CNN legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin discussed Attorney General Bill ...

NBC's Brian Williams: Attorney General Looked Like "Baghdad Bill Barr"

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/.../nbcs_brian_williams_attorney_general_looked_like...

▶ 1:12

9 hours ago

Attorney General Bill Barr is held a news conference Thursday morning to discuss special ... Maggie Haberman ...

CNN's Wolf Blitzer: "Almost A Complete Vindication" Of The President ...

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/.../cnns_wolf_blitzer_almost_a_complete_vindication_...

▶ 3:59

8 hours ago

CNN's Toobin: Bill Barr May Have Spent The Last 20 Years Watching ... New York Times White House ...

Watch Live: President Trump Speaks At Wounded Warrior Project ...

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/.../watch_live_president_trump_speaks_at_wounded_...

▶LIVE

10 hours ago - Uploaded by The White House

... correspondent Maggie Haberman and CNN legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin discussed Attorney General Bill ...

Maggie Haberman on Twitter: "Judge: Barr sowing public mistrust with ...

https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/1118344087587950592

3 days ago - RTs don't imply agreement. maggie.haberman@nytimes.com. Joined November ..... Bill Barr is nothing more than a @realDonaldTrump stooge.

Mueller report release: the last-minute drama, explained - Vox

https://www.vox.com/2019/4/17/.../mueller-report-release-barr-press-conference

1 day ago - We learned that William Barr will give a pre-report press conference — and that DOJ has ... Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) April 17, 2019.

Emboldened by His Attorney General, Trump Confronts Mueller Report

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/14/us/politics/trump-mueller-report.html

4 days ago - By Annie Karni and Maggie Haberman ... the day Attorney General William P. Barrdelivered to Congress his four-page summary of the special ...

White House and Justice Dept. Officials Discussed Mueller Report ...

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/17/us/politics/trump-mueller-report.html

1 day ago - Attorney General William P. Barr plans a news conference on ... By Mark Mazzetti, Maggie Haberman, Nicholas Fandos and Katie Benner.

If people here are going to start making all of this a MSM plot, I am going to include you on my "Conspiracy Theories are Fun and Magical" thread.

Overall, the "MSM",the fourth estate, has been our saving grace since day one of the Trump presidency. They called him a liar on day two when they had never called a president a liar before. There's a reason he targets them as the enemy.

"websites"

PeraclesPlease — Thu, 18 Apr 2019 20:55:23 +0000

In reply to I don't know what you are

"websites"

Many accounts led with the

rmrd0000 — Thu, 18 Apr 2019 20:13:51 +0000

In reply to Oh really? How do you know

Many accounts led with the respected lawyer aspect, placing critics s at the end

From CNN

Officials at the DOJ are thrilled with Trump's selection of Barr, multiple current and former officials told CNN. He's universally seen as solid, reliable conservative, but also someone who can get confirmed.

Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein was "elated" by Trump's selection of Barr, according to a source close to him.

One Justice Department lawyer who had been nervous about who the President might pick praised the choice of Barr, saying it is good for morale.

"As compared to other potential picks, this is a great choice," said the official. The source called Barr a "very mature choice," and said when Barr emerged as the front runner people at Justice were hoping he'd be the pick "because he's tough he's principled and he's independent."

Chuck Cooper, Sessions' lawyer, also praised the pick, saying Barr served "honorably and well, earning the respect of people on both sides of the aisle. He is a fine man and a great choice to head the department."

https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/07/politics/william-barr-attorney-general-nomination/index.html

just turned on Bloomberg TV.

artappraiser — Thu, 18 Apr 2019 20:04:42 +0000

In reply to Oh really? How do you know

just turned on Bloomberg TV. They have Bloomberg columnist Jonathan Bernstein strongly bashing Barr for incorrectly summarizing the report....