dagblog - Comments for "WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange charged with violating Espionage Act" http://dagblog.com/link/wikileaks-founder-julian-assange-charged-violating-espionage-act-28193 Comments for "WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange charged with violating Espionage Act" en Sorry, it's still not clear. http://dagblog.com/comment/268100#comment-268100 <a id="comment-268100"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/268099#comment-268099">&quot;Assange is not charged</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Sorry, it's still not clear. There's no "mea culpa" on the part of the government for atrocities committed in its name by contractors, etc, and Obama/Holder were brutal on whistleblowers as well, and those dumps helped bring about the Arab Spring - a momentary ray of light into the Mideast's gloomy dictator mindset.</p> <p>Oddly, Hillary as Secretary of State seemed to shrug off the inconvenience caused by the dump -"It hasn't made things easier" was as outraged as she got. But she became Assange Enemy #1 *after* the dumps, more than Obama.</p> <p>ETA: Marcy notes other contradictions (and 1 comment piqued my interest re Trump's two-fer: keep Assange out of US courts but attack the press.)</p> <p><a href="https://www.emptywheel.net/2019/05/24/the-logic-of-assanges-edva-indictment-is-inconsistent-with-muellers-apparent-logic-on-assanges-declination/">https://www.emptywheel.net/2019/05/24/the-logic-of-assanges-edva-indictm...</a></p> </div></div></div> Sun, 26 May 2019 04:36:00 +0000 PeraclesPlease comment 268100 at http://dagblog.com "Assange is not charged http://dagblog.com/comment/268099#comment-268099 <a id="comment-268099"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/wikileaks-founder-julian-assange-charged-violating-espionage-act-28193">WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange charged with violating Espionage Act</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">"Assange is not charged simply because he is a publisher.” — U.S. Attorney Zachary Terwilliger <a href="https://t.co/1DliNtQ8YS">pic.twitter.com/1DliNtQ8YS</a></p> — Ryan J. Reilly (@ryanjreilly) <a href="https://twitter.com/ryanjreilly/status/1131688409779638272?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 23, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Sun, 26 May 2019 02:36:54 +0000 artappraiser comment 268099 at http://dagblog.com WaPo editorial board's more http://dagblog.com/comment/268091#comment-268091 <a id="comment-268091"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/wikileaks-founder-julian-assange-charged-violating-espionage-act-28193">WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange charged with violating Espionage Act</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>WaPo editorial board's more than two cents published yesterday:</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">Julian Assange isn’t a journalist. But the way the Trump administration has charged him is an attack on journalism. Our editorial ⁦<a href="https://twitter.com/PostOpinions?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@PostOpinions</a>⁩ <a href="https://t.co/ZgKNKrAvIn">https://t.co/ZgKNKrAvIn</a></p> — Fred Hiatt (@hiattf) <a href="https://twitter.com/hiattf/status/1132259950749732865?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 25, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Sat, 25 May 2019 21:20:52 +0000 artappraiser comment 268091 at http://dagblog.com A comment on EmptyWheel's http://dagblog.com/comment/268038#comment-268038 <a id="comment-268038"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/wikileaks-founder-julian-assange-charged-violating-espionage-act-28193">WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange charged with violating Espionage Act</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>A comment on EmptyWheel's thread suggests this is a way Team Trump makes sure Assange is never extradited to the US to face attacks for the normal parts of Wikileaks' journalism, thus Assange's collusion/conspiracy with Trump/Manafort/Stone (and Trump's participation &amp; obstruction kept less certain).<br /> Yes, it does seem like an attack on journalism, such as making overtly illegal what Jason Leopold does, who's inarguably a journalist.<br /> [combine the DoJ's tapping *everything* coming through 20-30 different lines of AP's for likea  half year without telling anyone - UNDER OBAMA/HOLDER - to try to find a leak by 1 reporter - and *then* promoting the idea that it's okay to snoop on reporters' sources as long as they don't take content - pretty heavy-handed intimidation of the 4th Estate. Go USA - resting on unearned laurels for 243 years.]</p> </div></div></div> Fri, 24 May 2019 09:55:30 +0000 PeraclesPlease comment 268038 at http://dagblog.com Wikileaks and Ed Snowden: http://dagblog.com/comment/268032#comment-268032 <a id="comment-268032"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/wikileaks-founder-julian-assange-charged-violating-espionage-act-28193">WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange charged with violating Espionage Act</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Wikileaks and Ed Snowden:</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-cards="hidden" data-lang="en" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">This is madness. It is the end of national security journalism and the first amendment. <a href="https://t.co/wlhsmsenFw">https://t.co/wlhsmsenFw</a></p> — WikiLeaks (@wikileaks) <a href="https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/1131656403112931331?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 23, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-cards="hidden" data-lang="en" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">The Department of Justice just declared war––€”not on Wikileaks, but on journalism itself. This is no longer about Julian Assange: This case will decide the future of media. <a href="https://t.co/a5WHmTCDpg">https://t.co/a5WHmTCDpg</a></p> — Edward Snowden (@Snowden) <a href="https://twitter.com/Snowden/status/1131657973745496066?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 23, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Fri, 24 May 2019 04:34:18 +0000 artappraiser comment 268032 at http://dagblog.com The Editorial Board of the http://dagblog.com/comment/268031#comment-268031 <a id="comment-268031"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/wikileaks-founder-julian-assange-charged-violating-espionage-act-28193">WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange charged with violating Espionage Act</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>The Editorial Board of the New York Times, 30 mins. ago:</p> <p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/23/opinion/julian-assange-wikileaks.html?action=click&amp;module=Opinion&amp;pgtype=Homepage">Julian Assange’s Indictment Aims at the Heart of the First Amendment</a><br /><em>The Trump administration seeks to use the Espionage Act to redefine what journalists can and cannot publish.</em></p> </div></div></div> Fri, 24 May 2019 04:26:06 +0000 artappraiser comment 268031 at http://dagblog.com The debate over this http://dagblog.com/comment/268022#comment-268022 <a id="comment-268022"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/wikileaks-founder-julian-assange-charged-violating-espionage-act-28193">WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange charged with violating Espionage Act</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>The debate over this summarized down to two tweets:</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">FTFY ==&gt; This is a deliberate effort to establish a precedent that can be used to prosecute fake journalists who are working as agents of hostile foreign intelligence services to subvert Western democracies, their laws &amp; their security.<br /><br /> You're welcome.<a href="https://t.co/Cx9rQB8OaP">https://t.co/Cx9rQB8OaP</a></p> — John Schindler (@20committee) <a href="https://twitter.com/20committee/status/1131665834273845267?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 23, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Fri, 24 May 2019 03:10:25 +0000 artappraiser comment 268022 at http://dagblog.com