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My brothers used to call me

PeraclesPlease — Wed, 02 Dec 2020 21:18:00 +0000

My brothers used to call me "The Blister" cuz I'd "show up when work was done". I grew out of that annoying habit. Even tho I always had a pretty convincing (to me) argument.

Waaaaa . . .

oldenGoldenDecoy — Wed, 02 Dec 2020 20:51:11 +0000

In reply to Cherry picking i see:

Waaaaa . . .

Bottom line to the entire thread is...

~OGD~

You're welcome RMRD...

oldenGoldenDecoy — Wed, 02 Dec 2020 20:21:42 +0000

In reply to Lol Thx

You're welcome RMRD...

This thread was very enlightening. In more ways than one.

It was less stressful to scroll this than having to be bothered
and stressed out with a full year of the crap and minutia.

~OGD~

Cherry picking i see:

PeraclesPlease — Wed, 02 Dec 2020 20:21:00 +0000

In reply to Uhhh looking back . . .

Cherry picking i see:

Biden's biggest asset right now - why he lost before - is being boring but sane. I think people will find his foot-in-mouth mutterings quaint and reassuring after 24x7 wacko these last years, and any large proposal from the left will just trigger either knee-jerk "there they go again" from the right, or i'd guess concerns about bridges too far/won't get fooled again from the center/center-left. - PP

Note that no one's going to ding Joe for voting for the AUMF or being VP in the government that surged Iraq or whatever his role in Libya and Syria - those foreign policy forays are always good times for Joe - just has to smile and look proper and male and white. Ok, grandpa is ancient, so he's a bit cringeworthy on the guys and gals stuff. Whatever, we'll see. - PP

My guess is most blacks will find it irrelevant [working with racists in the past]. But at least Biden could find some common ground with racists. Finding common ground with current Republicans? Not bloody likely. [not likely Jun 2019 - likelier in pandemic 2020] - PP

But I don't think the scandal bar is sticky for Biden. Again, he can do the exact same stuff as Hillary, but no one cares about him. (think of John Kerry - tell me how his tenure as SoS has been much different, but he's still treated as the same old.) - PP.

In previous campaigns Joe had more compelling opponents, and we have the comfort factor and the need to beat Trump factor. The baba yaga she-witch isn't running to steal your children, with only Liz Warren partially occupying the Wicked Witch of the East role. The media will try to pump up the scandals, but Hunter/Ukraine faded pretty quick, so even if Joe's none-too-adroit, whitewater/emailgate/travelgate/uraniumgate won't be battoned about for months til draw blood - instead, Joe will survive his uncomfortable news cycles and he'll still be old, male, white, good looking, friendly - with 50 years gov experience with exactly that. For 2020, with a lunatic of the other party in the White House, a quiet weekend in the Hamptons may be our ideal vacation, rather than the Caribbean cruise or the trek thru the Amazon.

The thing to remember is Biden wins his category hands down. The rest will fight and compete to win the "who has the best ideas", "who will solve student loans/inequality", "who is the most anti-war", "who has identity cred", etc. 2nd place in any of those categories is a 1-way ticket to Palookaville - "2nd most liberal candidate - plus black!" isn't a winning campaign, isn't how people parcel off their votes. Offhand I'd say only Andrew Yang has something compelling for an also-ran, but he'll need to rise up as the many others (Pete, Beto, Tulsi...) fade to pre-ordained irrelevance. - PP

C'ville wins the best 9-month old prognosis.

Mine wouldn't have been bad, but I overestimated Bloomberg displacing Joe a month ago. (Rumors of Joe's death were greatly exaggerated) - PP, after momentarily panicking/not analyzing, Mar 2020

[if I'd only realized *being out to pasture* was Joe's winning ticket, his key differentiator. He'd already retired - which made him a safe choice to come back. Kind of like those execs they bring back to right an unmoored swaying corporate ship. Joe's your salty dog captain, just give him the cap. Bloomber was too much the guy who'd ever retire, would always have ambition. Major disqualifier - if you want the job, you shouldn't have it...]

Lol Thx

rmrd0000 — Wed, 02 Dec 2020 19:58:06 +0000

In reply to Uhhh looking back . . .

Lol

Thx

Uhhh looking back . . .

oldenGoldenDecoy — Wed, 02 Dec 2020 19:26:40 +0000

In reply to Funny to read this now,

Uhhh looking back . . .

Really shows how even the smartest, most
nuanced predictions are, well, for shit. by PS

And even more so now..

Time is Not on Biden's Side - Michael W
Biden is not that adept a politician. - Michael W
He'll trip up sooner or later. - Michael M
Joe's out to pasture. Say it ain't so, Joe. - PP

And big props to artappraiser for this...

Everyone should keep in mind that Trump will
no doubt be playing politics for narcissist
enjoyment until he's very ill or dies. Even if he's
not president or is in jail, he will fight with all his
might to keep a large fan club.

Now may I Introduce you all to . . .

President Elect Joe Biden

~OGD~

ps:

Funny to read this now,

PS — Sun, 15 Mar 2020 01:56:38 +0000

In reply to This post aged pretty well

Funny to read this now, starting at the top and ending up here.

Really shows how even the smartest, most nuanced predictions are, well, for shit.

Pete and Amy's timing does

Michael Wolraich — Wed, 11 Mar 2020 16:47:32 +0000

In reply to In SC aftermath it was Steyer

Pete and Amy's timing does suggest coordination, but the writing was on the wall. Biden had already won the center lane. There was no hope for them on Super Tuesday.

I think about about it more

Michael Wolraich — Wed, 11 Mar 2020 16:43:26 +0000

In reply to I would like to focus you

I think about about it more as a state of flux. The classic left-right divide of the 20th century is obsolete, but we've yet to settle on a new binary division. Once that emerges, you'll again see two dominant parties in each country. In the US, that probably doesn't mean new parties will emerge but that the old parties will realign themselves. The GOP is already well into the process of evolving into a chauvinist, isolationist party. Democrats are still casting about and battling over a new direction, mainly technocratic vs socialist. You see similar leftist divisions in EU countries like the UK and France, while the right becomes more chauvinist and isolationist.

I would like to focus you

artappraiser — Wed, 11 Mar 2020 16:12:47 +0000

In reply to True, though I'm not so

I would like to focus you back on something we discussed long ago, that the big tent parties are breaking up into smaller parties allover the world, mostly populist and not populist:

We have two Dem parties right now, one for age 18-44 and one for 45 and older:

The two parties https://t.co/59C51v22c5 pic.twitter.com/YCcvnhrkIl
— David Marcus (@davidimarcus) March 11, 2020

And a reminder that on the GOP side, there are the Never Trumper traditionalists vs. the Bannonites.

In a way, the choice of an old-school making-sausage pragmatic Dem with empathy skills and wisdom of age is not such a bad choice in this situation. Especially if his cabinet is full of new ideas.