dagblog - Comments for "Supreme Court Rulings on Gerrymandering and Citizenship Question in the Census" http://dagblog.com/link/supreme-court-ruling-gerrymandering-28507 Comments for "Supreme Court Rulings on Gerrymandering and Citizenship Question in the Census" en Obama on gerrymandering, http://dagblog.com/comment/269325#comment-269325 <a id="comment-269325"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/supreme-court-ruling-gerrymandering-28507">Supreme Court Rulings on Gerrymandering and Citizenship Question in the Census</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Obama on gerrymandering, promoting that which was indicated by the ruling, make new law:</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">The most important job in our democracy is citizen. If you’re tired of politicians manipulating maps and ignoring the will of voters, I hope you’ll sign <a href="https://twitter.com/allontheline?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@allontheline</a>’s Citizen Commitment today: <a href="https://t.co/CUAaoAGY6z">https://t.co/CUAaoAGY6z</a></p> — Barack Obama (@BarackObama) <a href="https://twitter.com/BarackObama/status/1145724532700983296?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 1, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Tue, 02 Jul 2019 01:13:28 +0000 artappraiser comment 269325 at http://dagblog.com Don's having trouble with http://dagblog.com/comment/269215#comment-269215 <a id="comment-269215"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/269197#comment-269197">Trump’s sycophants attack </a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Don's having trouble with this Constutution and Democracy thing right now - which could be his most impeachable offense to date, since his job doesn't exactly give him the right to blow up the Constitution when he's unhappy with it - quite the opposite - his main job description is supporting the Constitution. The big dumb thieving hairball.</p> </div></div></div> Fri, 28 Jun 2019 20:48:22 +0000 PeraclesPlease comment 269215 at http://dagblog.com Trump’s sycophants attack http://dagblog.com/comment/269197#comment-269197 <a id="comment-269197"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/supreme-court-ruling-gerrymandering-28507">Supreme Court Rulings on Gerrymandering and Citizenship Question in the Census</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">Trump’s sycophants attack "traitor" Chief Justice John Roberts after census ruling <a href="https://t.co/EXPS0X6bTM">https://t.co/EXPS0X6bTM</a></p> — Media Matters (@mmfa) <a href="https://twitter.com/mmfa/status/1144643709499297792?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 28, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Fri, 28 Jun 2019 17:12:38 +0000 artappraiser comment 269197 at http://dagblog.com On the citzenship/census http://dagblog.com/comment/269135#comment-269135 <a id="comment-269135"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/supreme-court-ruling-gerrymandering-28507">Supreme Court Rulings on Gerrymandering and Citizenship Question in the Census</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>On the citzenship/census ruling, Neal Katyal retweeted Adam Schiff's comment on the NPR breaking story:</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">We know the purpose of adding a citizenship question to the Census: to suppress participation in immigrant communities for partisan reasons.<br /><br /> Today, five Supreme Court Justices saw through the Trump Administration's pretext.<br /><br /> For now, the integrity of the census is preserved. <a href="https://t.co/d1aEGfLpIi">https://t.co/d1aEGfLpIi</a></p> — Adam Schiff (@RepAdamSchiff) <a href="https://twitter.com/RepAdamSchiff/status/1144263608660049920?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 27, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Thu, 27 Jun 2019 18:36:56 +0000 artappraiser comment 269135 at http://dagblog.com Holder brings up the http://dagblog.com/comment/269134#comment-269134 <a id="comment-269134"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/269133#comment-269133">Eric Holder slams Supreme</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Holder brings up the citizenship question because they also ruled on that, against the administration "for now":</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SupremeCourt?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SupremeCourt</a> has ruled that the Trump administration cannot include a citizenship question on <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Census2020?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Census2020</a> -- for now. In this episode of <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Legalese?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Legalese</a>, Professor Joshua Geltzer (<a href="https://twitter.com/jgeltzer?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@jgeltzer</a>) predicts this decision will be the "last major word" on a critical issue. <a href="https://t.co/ImgyAxGbjy">pic.twitter.com/ImgyAxGbjy</a></p> — Georgetown Law (@GeorgetownLaw) <a href="https://twitter.com/GeorgetownLaw/status/1144298870588887040?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 27, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Thu, 27 Jun 2019 18:30:11 +0000 artappraiser comment 269134 at http://dagblog.com Eric Holder slams Supreme http://dagblog.com/comment/269133#comment-269133 <a id="comment-269133"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/269130#comment-269130">Waiting to see how Eric</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-cards="hidden" data-lang="en" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">Eric Holder slams Supreme Court gerrymandering case: "This decision tears at the fabric of our democracy" <a href="https://t.co/nB0dbz0Y7D">https://t.co/nB0dbz0Y7D</a> <a href="https://t.co/JSFXuWRgHv">pic.twitter.com/JSFXuWRgHv</a></p> — The Hill (@thehill) <a href="https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1144294841943306241?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 27, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">With partisan gerrymandering decision (plus Citizens United/Shelby) Roberts Court has entered a new political Lochner era. This decision tears at the fabric of our democracy and puts the interests of the established few above the many. History will not be kind in its assessment.</p> — Eric Holder (@EricHolder) <a href="https://twitter.com/EricHolder/status/1144258619610980352?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 27, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">In the Census case there is NO way any neutral court could uphold the effort to include the citizenship question. The record/new documents conclusively demonstrate that the Administration was lying about its intentions. This cannot be ignored and the question cannot be allowed.</p> — Eric Holder (@EricHolder) <a href="https://twitter.com/EricHolder/status/1144260606574440448?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 27, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">Let me be very clear. In spite of the troubling Supreme Court gerrymandering ruling we continue to fight. We still have both more tools and the strong will to bring fairness to our democracy. We need concerned citizens to join us. Nothing worth having comes easy. We can do this</p> — Eric Holder (@EricHolder) <a href="https://twitter.com/EricHolder/status/1144274740523282434?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 27, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">Hey Scott - how can you possibly justify the gerrymandering you supervised in Wisconsin? Democrats got way more votes and far fewer seats. Anti-democratic. Can you win a fair election? And putting up a picture of two black guys is an example of the worst of us. And you. <a href="https://t.co/7vCnXVORKb">https://t.co/7vCnXVORKb</a></p> — Eric Holder (@EricHolder) <a href="https://twitter.com/EricHolder/status/1144307579214020609?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 27, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Thu, 27 Jun 2019 18:19:26 +0000 artappraiser comment 269133 at http://dagblog.com All this shows is that Silver http://dagblog.com/comment/269132#comment-269132 <a id="comment-269132"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/269128#comment-269128">Nate Silver:</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>All this shows is that Silver hasn't been following this story. I've read countless articles discussing the divide between low density red rural areas and high density blue urban areas. A "natural" divide exists that gerrymandering takes advantage of.</p> </div></div></div> Thu, 27 Jun 2019 18:18:35 +0000 ocean-kat comment 269132 at http://dagblog.com Waiting to see how Eric http://dagblog.com/comment/269130#comment-269130 <a id="comment-269130"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/supreme-court-ruling-gerrymandering-28507">Supreme Court Rulings on Gerrymandering and Citizenship Question in the Census</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Waiting to see how Eric Holder and other gerrymandering opponents respond to this.</p> </div></div></div> Thu, 27 Jun 2019 18:06:23 +0000 rmrd0000 comment 269130 at http://dagblog.com Nate Silver: http://dagblog.com/comment/269128#comment-269128 <a id="comment-269128"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/supreme-court-ruling-gerrymandering-28507">Supreme Court Rulings on Gerrymandering and Citizenship Question in the Census</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Nate Silver:</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">One thing I'm *pretty* sure people get wrong* is that Democrats disadvantage in districting/gerrymandering does not come from cities being denser than rural areas per se. 1/3<br /><br /> * I've thought about this a lot but am still not 100% sure my intuition is right.</p> — Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) <a href="https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1144296593962745859?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 27, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-lang="en" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">Rather, it's that the bluest contiguous areas (which happen to be urban and dense) are bluer than the reddest contiguous areas (which happen to be rural) are red. 2/3</p> — Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) <a href="https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1144296595246243841?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 27, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-lang="en" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">In a hypothetical world where certain rural areas were *extremely red* (e.g. 80%+ GOP voting), as red as some urban cores are blue (e.g. 80%+ DEM voting), the GOP would have more problems with districting and could more easily be gerrymandered. 3/3</p> — Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) <a href="https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1144296596332564480?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 27, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Thu, 27 Jun 2019 17:58:27 +0000 artappraiser comment 269128 at http://dagblog.com Liz Warren: http://dagblog.com/comment/269126#comment-269126 <a id="comment-269126"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/supreme-court-ruling-gerrymandering-28507">Supreme Court Rulings on Gerrymandering and Citizenship Question in the Census</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Liz Warren:</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">Today the Supreme Court threw up its hands &amp; declared it can’t rein in partisan gerrymandering – can’t protect Americans’ constitutional rights to participate in their democracy equally &amp; choose their representatives. It's a shameful blow to the functioning of our democracy.</p> — Elizabeth Warren (@SenWarren) <a href="https://twitter.com/SenWarren/status/1144279863869759488?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 27, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Thu, 27 Jun 2019 17:54:31 +0000 artappraiser comment 269126 at http://dagblog.com