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Except 1) Soros did succeed

PeraclesPlease — Tue, 09 Jul 2019 23:39:55 +0000

In reply to James Traub, who's opinion is

Except 1) Soros did succeed in East Europe and CIS countries while the US bailed to find its "peace dividend"

2) extreme poverty has decreased from 36% to 8% globally since the 1999's

3) the world's conflicts have greatly subsided in a steady descent since the megaconflict of WWII thru the Vietnam/Indonesia era thru the Iraq-Iran years up to now where only 5 or so smallish conflicts outside of Syria exist.

Yet these "smart" people start with a premise of total failure, ignoring that we've mostly just failed where we've been. Even Ukraine has been a pittance. 0 wars of consequence in non-Arab Asia aside from Afghanistan. Largely nada in North Africa aside from Libya. Europe and the Americas are calm. Why so gloomy all the time? Why can't we acknowledge successes and expand on them?

James Traub, who's opinion is

artappraiser — Tue, 09 Jul 2019 22:36:12 +0000

In reply to In an astonishing turn, George Soros and Charles Koch team up to end US ‘forever war’ policy

James Traub, whose opinion is in this area is always worthwhile

A new think tank funded by George Soros and Charles Koch wants to end American interventionism, but shows no understanding of what motivates it, @JamesTraub1 writes. https://t.co/v5nSJNE4be
— Foreign Policy (@ForeignPolicy) July 9, 2019

After they took it.

moat — Mon, 01 Jul 2019 23:06:11 +0000

In reply to Oh and I see Bannon warned

After they took it.

Oh and I see Bannon warned

artappraiser — Mon, 01 Jul 2019 21:51:41 +0000

In reply to It'll be easy: deep state

Oh and I see Bannon warned the troops about Koch money a year ago.

Washington Times' Cheryl

artappraiser — Mon, 01 Jul 2019 21:48:28 +0000

In reply to It'll be easy: deep state

Washington Times' Cheryl Chumley theorizes they have both always been globalist beasts supporting open borders. You can finish the narrative....one world gummint is always a danger, that's what "they" are working towards, so make sure you keep your automatic weapons so you can shoot back at those black UN helicopters....

Like I said: how does a Trump making footsie with Saudis and North Koreans much different? They'll get there eventually.

It'll be easy: deep state

artappraiser — Mon, 01 Jul 2019 21:36:17 +0000

In reply to It will be interesting to see

It'll be easy: deep state deeper than they thought. Too bad for us that it will take them too long to include Trump in the conspiracy; I'd very much be willing to bet that they will eventually get there, though. A narcissist billionaire with gilded era tastes was an odd choice to trust as a leader of the euro-caucasian working class people's party in the first place.

It will be interesting to see

moat — Mon, 01 Jul 2019 19:16:34 +0000

In reply to In an astonishing turn, George Soros and Charles Koch team up to end US ‘forever war’ policy

It will be interesting to see how the Bannonites respond to this. Their bête noire is found snuggling with their sugar daddy.

Cue gnashing of teeth.

It's the Prosperity Olympics.

PeraclesPlease — Mon, 01 Jul 2019 17:21:11 +0000

In reply to For once I can say this

It's the Prosperity Olympics. All you need is bucks. Imagine no recessions, it's easy if you try, no credit card rejections, cashless transaction buys, imagine all consumers shopping without fees... The 60s indeed are dead.

For once I can say this

CVille Dem — Mon, 01 Jul 2019 12:40:11 +0000

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For once I can say this without irony:

What could possibly go wrong?

Seriously. Two politically active billionaires from opposite sides, come together to stop war...I’m feeling slightly hopeful.

Excerpt with link to the new

artappraiser — Mon, 01 Jul 2019 03:56:32 +0000

In reply to In an astonishing turn, George Soros and Charles Koch team up to end US ‘forever war’ policy

Excerpt with link to the new think tank's website:

Since peaceful foreign policy was a founding principle of the United States, it’s appropriate that the name of this think tank harken back to history. It will be called the Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft, an homage to John Quincy Adams, who in a seminal speech on Independence Day in 1821 declared that the United States “goes not abroad in search of monsters to destroy. She is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all. She is the champion and vindicator only of her own.” The Quincy Institute will promote a foreign policy based on that live-and-let-live principle.

The institute plans to open its doors in September and hold an official inauguration later in the autumn. Its founding donors — Soros’s Open Society Foundation and the Charles Koch Foundation — have each contributed half a million dollars to fund its takeoff. A handful of individual donors have joined to add another $800,000. By next year the institute hopes to have a $3.5 million budget and a staff of policy experts who will churn out material for use in Congress and in public debates. Hiring is underway. Among Parsi’s co-founders are several well-known critics of American foreign policy, including Suzanne DiMaggio, who has spent decades promoting negotiated alternatives to conflict with China, Iran, and North Korea; the historian and essayist Stephen Wertheim; and the anti-militarist author and retired Army colonel Andrew Bacevich.