dagblog - Comments for "Honky Bitch Betsy Ross Shamed for Racist Connex - Yay Kap" http://dagblog.com/link/honky-bitch-betsy-ross-shamed-racist-connection-yay-kap-28565 Comments for "Honky Bitch Betsy Ross Shamed for Racist Connex - Yay Kap" en also too: everybody's got http://dagblog.com/comment/269494#comment-269494 <a id="comment-269494"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/269475#comment-269475">[Pssst - ask him about his</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>also too: everybody's got their own interpretation of iconography. The thirteen-star flag is an iconograph, the meaning in the eye of the beholder. Some may see the hegemon slave-owning U.S. in those shoes and that flag but I think that would be pretty uncommon.</p> <p>What I think when I see that flag is not any southern states at all, but New Angland, goofy Betsy Ross stories and fife and drum bands dressed in Minuteman outfits in parades;  signs on the shore in Maine that say <em>SUMMA'S HEERA, IT'S LOBSTA TIME; </em>the Kennedy's on their sailboat at the compound....</p> <p>What that Nike shoe design with the Betsy Ross flag actually is: pure appropriation of Ralph Lauren preppy style (it's Ralph who should been outraged and screaming for a licensing fee.) Anybody who found their design offensive should also find Ralph Lauren designs offensive.</p> <p>Notice in the last decade lots of hip black kids in NYC like the preppy all-American style thing, wear shit with flags on it all the time. Is that done with some irony about appropriation of white privilege? In many cases, I think so. But they also like mixing the "clean cut all American" look with like, long dreads. LLBean &amp; dreads. I think that is probably what NIKE was trying for here. They are not stupid about trends, far from it.</p> </div></div></div> Fri, 05 Jul 2019 22:58:56 +0000 artappraiser comment 269494 at http://dagblog.com [Pssst - ask him about his http://dagblog.com/comment/269475#comment-269475 <a id="comment-269475"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/269474#comment-269474">hey kgb, good to see you stop</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>[Pssst - ask him about his knitted dolly doilies and puppy bondage accessories - that'll hit him where it hurts]</p> </div></div></div> Fri, 05 Jul 2019 18:13:54 +0000 PeraclesPlease comment 269475 at http://dagblog.com hey kgb, good to see you stop http://dagblog.com/comment/269474#comment-269474 <a id="comment-269474"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/269468#comment-269468">That&#039;s pretty much how a</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>hey kgb, good to see you stop by. </p> <p>Not sarcasm. Not buying a product because you find it offensive is one thing. Having protests, outrage and threats to force producer not to produce it is: a planned economy. First they came for the Betsy Ross shoes, and you said nothing, next they'll be coming for your sex toys and violent video games. What happened to one of my favorite libertarians, kgb?</p> </div></div></div> Fri, 05 Jul 2019 18:06:19 +0000 artappraiser comment 269474 at http://dagblog.com It's all good fun til you get http://dagblog.com/comment/269471#comment-269471 <a id="comment-269471"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/269466#comment-269466">ROTFLMAO. Still going strong</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>It's all good fun til you get the squirts. Caveat rector.</p> </div></div></div> Fri, 05 Jul 2019 08:47:00 +0000 PeraclesPlease comment 269471 at http://dagblog.com It's not just shoes - Betsy http://dagblog.com/comment/269470#comment-269470 <a id="comment-269470"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/269467#comment-269467">I&#039;m torn. On the one hand,</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>It's not just shoes - Betsy Ross is now suspect, shitcanned from mention in polite societ, a fellow traveller of racism. I don't give a fuck about Nike shoes. I also didn't think about Betsy Ross too much nor flags nor whatnot, but don't like seeing her character shit on - esp. since she was the only prominent female figure of the time known for being something ither than the wife of a more famous figure.</p> <p>As important, this move will get these "horrid people" riled up to vote and otherwise encourage assholes. So a lose-lose. But as consolation, we get to feel clever, smug and better than them again. Who cares about winning state legislatures - we have cultural superiority to manage. Oh, and it gave alt-right a victory - they now own the Betsy Ross flag.</p> </div></div></div> Fri, 05 Jul 2019 08:40:00 +0000 PeraclesPlease comment 269470 at http://dagblog.com That last part about the http://dagblog.com/comment/269469#comment-269469 <a id="comment-269469"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/269386#comment-269386">The flag has been</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>That last part about the Republican gov trying to nuke a bunch of new jobs seems like kind of a political blessing ... especially coming into an election year where Democrats have started making inroads in AZ.</p> <p>If Democrats can't turn:</p> <blockquote> <p>I’ve ordered the Arizona Commerce Authority to withdraw all financial incentive dollars under their discretion that the State was providing for the company to locate here. Arizona’s economy is doing just fine without Nike.</p> </blockquote> <p>into a brutal campaign ad ... every Democrat in the state needs to quit politics.</p> </div></div></div> Fri, 05 Jul 2019 07:57:18 +0000 kgb999 again comment 269469 at http://dagblog.com That's pretty much how a http://dagblog.com/comment/269468#comment-269468 <a id="comment-269468"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/269436#comment-269436">How a sensible right winger</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>That's pretty much how a right-winger sees everything though : "<em>if you are offended by [this thing that doesn't offend me], than it's a pretty good indication you should just get the hell out of America.</em>"</p> <p>How is that sensible, exactly ... or was this sarcasm?</p> </div></div></div> Fri, 05 Jul 2019 07:35:04 +0000 kgb999 again comment 269468 at http://dagblog.com I'm torn. On the one hand, http://dagblog.com/comment/269467#comment-269467 <a id="comment-269467"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/honky-bitch-betsy-ross-shamed-racist-connection-yay-kap-28565">Honky Bitch Betsy Ross Shamed for Racist Connex - Yay Kap</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>I'm torn. On the one hand, you are obviously right ... the entire premise for nixing the shoes is kind of absurd. On the other, how can a decision that makes this many horrid people so delightfully upset be the wrong thing to do?</p> <p>It's just flipping shoes. I wouldn't have bought 'em anyhow ... and it's a great troll. I feel you aren't taking into account the upside.</p> </div></div></div> Fri, 05 Jul 2019 07:29:56 +0000 kgb999 again comment 269467 at http://dagblog.com ROTFLMAO. Still going strong http://dagblog.com/comment/269466#comment-269466 <a id="comment-269466"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/269456#comment-269456">Enjoy your ribs. Sorry I don</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>ROTFLMAO. Still going strong I see.</p> </div></div></div> Fri, 05 Jul 2019 07:22:57 +0000 kgb999 again comment 269466 at http://dagblog.com Enjoy your ribs. Sorry I don http://dagblog.com/comment/269456#comment-269456 <a id="comment-269456"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/269455#comment-269455">Today is National Barbeque</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Enjoy your ribs, I suppose. Sorry I don't do much Barbecue. Being an "asshole" I go in for less spicy and deboned food  - you can call it "the sphincter approach", I recktum - garbage in, garbage out as they say.</p> </div></div></div> Thu, 04 Jul 2019 17:31:00 +0000 PeraclesPlease comment 269456 at http://dagblog.com