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Not sure why you're so

PeraclesPlease — Mon, 08 Jul 2019 16:30:00 +0000

Not sure why you're so negative about that part - my 3 wives (will be 4 as soon as new bride turns 16) find our relationship very special and spiritually fulfilling, you might even say life affirming, even though I'm not that much a church goer... of course their work in the fields is important, along with handling the 13 kids, but I'd place our wedding vows as the most important thing they've done. (for me I might have to include my degree and cross country racing, but still pretty darned important).

Op-ed writer at Ha'aretz

artappraiser — Mon, 08 Jul 2019 16:25:06 +0000

In reply to Evangelical Judaism goes full

Op-ed writer at Ha'aretz takes her op-ed on at length and goes into some of the newer stanger-than-ever evangelical interpretations:

Deifying the American President: Miriam Adelson Doubles Down on 'Book of Trump'

Israeli-American megadonor uses media platforms to tout the ‘platinum anniversary’ being celebrated by the two countries and to decry the president’s lack of ‘sweeping support’ at home

Myself, strongest reaction I had to it: a classic example of the creepy way that ultra orthodox women of many religions (Jewish, Muslim, evangelical Christian) talk about marriage where being a wife is a calling, a very special career more important than any other in the world. Secondary reaction: remarkably also sounds a lot like rmrd preaching at dagblog; seriously. It's partly the short declarative sentences creating a narrative, but the zealotry factor too. She's not about to discuss anything, she's preaching her facts to the world, looking for amens.

Evangelical Judaism goes full

PeraclesPlease — Mon, 08 Jul 2019 13:44:03 +0000

In reply to The Deepening Crisis in Evangelical Christianity

Evangelical Judaism goes full psycho with Miriam Adelson pleading for a "Book of Trump" (yes, it'll happen - just as a court collection of indictments, not her longed for New New Old Testament).
Seems her convincing argument is that Trump told the rest of the Mideast to "suck it, bitch", and that makes him holy. (the "let's not turn this rape into a murder" argument usually wins, as the Spanish Wolf Pack cases illuminate, though nuclear weapons and the most modern army in the world deployed especially to the Mideast over the last decades are definitely a "trump" card over 5 drunk & violent guys with hard-ons).

She also offers this really icky view of Israel & the US being married 50 years - really. Like, yuck, no. Maybe the one with Golda Meier, with some charm and diplomacy, or Yitzhak Rabin assassinated while trying to make peace - but loudmouthed spoiled brats essentially living on someone else's couch but keep complaining the fridge is out of beer. No. Go back to Palestine, lady (and I use the lady term loosely) - apologize to your neighbors, your original countryfolk, not just the Jewish ones, and see if there's anything they need (yes, they need). You can marry into money, but you can't marry into class. And some relationships get much worse over time. Adelson's living proof. "Miracles"? a strange word for an ongoing insufferable tragedy, a Shakesperian trainwreck, orchestrated by 2 historic villains with tin ears and uncaring hearts.

https://www.reviewjournal.com/opinion/miriam-adelson-a-time-of-miracles-...

The comments, especially

artappraiser — Sun, 07 Jul 2019 18:21:10 +0000

In reply to There is no crisis facing

The comments, especially yours, made me realize that I didn't care about the op-ed part of it, didn't really pay attention, what I found interesting is his reporting--in complaint form of course, but again I give a shit--about what's going on in that community, how they are thinking. I guess it is the way I approach most op-eds. The arguments don't upset me so much, I am seeking the intel the person is sharing.

There is no crisis facing

ocean-kat — Sun, 07 Jul 2019 18:13:49 +0000

In reply to The Deepening Crisis in Evangelical Christianity

There is no crisis facing evangelical Christians. The article offers no evidence of a conflict and in fact makes it clear that the vast majority of evangelical Christians are not conflicted at all about Trump. Their support is overwhelming. Like the rare never Trump republican ther is a rare evangelical, perhaps this author, who is conflicted about Trump.

Huh? We had Jesus Christ

PeraclesPlease — Sun, 07 Jul 2019 06:32:00 +0000

In reply to The loose morals of the

Huh? We had Jesus Christ Superstar and Hair. Even Joseph & his Multi-Colored Dreamcoat

The loose morals of the

NCD — Sun, 07 Jul 2019 05:26:23 +0000

In reply to The Deepening Crisis in Evangelical Christianity

The loose morals of the libruls beginning in the 60s led him astray from following the holy scriptures.

How to not fight the

PeraclesPlease — Sun, 07 Jul 2019 05:08:57 +0000

In reply to The Deepening Crisis in Evangelical Christianity

How to not fight the Christian right - quite difficult. It's their fuel source. They've learned to eat their own tails.