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Belongs on this thread, mho:

artappraiser — Tue, 09 Jul 2019 22:17:10 +0000

In reply to Democrat Debates = like a Colonoscopy

Belongs on this thread, mho:

Best thing u are going to read about the complex modern policy debate behind the Biden-Kamala exchange on busing, from the terrific @emilymbadger https://t.co/NqP711AftM
— Glenn Thrush (@GlennThrush) July 8, 2019

Elizabeth Drew:

artappraiser — Tue, 09 Jul 2019 21:51:28 +0000

In reply to Democrat Debates = like a Colonoscopy

Elizabeth Drew:

Are the Democrats blowing it? My take: https://t.co/WqVDo09fGW
— Elizabeth Drew (@ElizabethDrewOH) July 9, 2019

The "buy in" to Medicare

artappraiser — Tue, 09 Jul 2019 20:11:50 +0000

In reply to "Medicare for all" is a loser

The "buy in" to Medicare doesn't do that, as Americans believe that people have the right to something if they pay for it, and particularly if it cuts out greedy for profit corporations.

It's soooo clearly the next step, I don't see rhyme nor reason in trying to sell something bigger. Hardly anyone would be against it, and it being a reality will educate folks-if they don't get it, someone they know will- about the actual costs, the upsides, the downsides, all the gory details about what's covered for how much, why certain things work better and other things don't, what might need to change, etc. Far better than a lecture from Bernie or a white paper will do. Obamacare did the same thing, everyone understands far more than they used to. Gradual transition is the only fucking way with this big a part of the economy, revolutionary upheaval is just not a winning campaign slogan with the political system we've got. On a national level, selling revolutionary upheaval actually draws away crucial voters that would hold their nose and vote for a little less revolution.

"Medicare for all" is a loser

NCD — Tue, 09 Jul 2019 13:27:27 +0000

In reply to I don't understand how he can

"Medicare for all" is a loser, as it strikes fear not only into the millions who managed to get a job with health care benefits, but it also scares everyone on Medicare with the thought it will go bankrupt faster. Grand concepts like "blow up 20% of the economy to have Medicare for all cuz it saves lotsa money and makes sense" hardly assuages the feelings of those millions who are content with what they have.

The "buy in" to Medicare doesn't do that, as Americans believe that people have the right to something if they pay for it, and particularly if it cuts out greedy for profit corporations.

I don't understand how he can

artappraiser — Tue, 09 Jul 2019 03:19:40 +0000

In reply to Democrat Debates = like a Colonoscopy

I don't understand how he can't see: if you bus children in every city all the way across town again, there will be more work for school bus drivers which will replace the jobs lost when Bernie shuts down all the private health insurance companies on day one.

More seriously, FWIW, more than anything else in the debates, I saw a lot of shock from moderate types on twitter that almost all the candidates raised their hand to being open to decriminalizing crossing the border illegally, with many thinking that had sent the exact "open borders" message that the GOP would like to brand them with. And that there is a reason they try to brand the Dems with that, because it is a death message. One can be both upset about the currrent treatment of border crossers and not be for making it a unenforced civil violation only.