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I disagree. Working directly

rmrd0000 — Wed, 22 Jan 2020 16:44:46 +0000

In reply to Hmm, saying Trump is an anti

I disagree. Working directly with a Jewish Congresswoman, getting sport from Sanders, and criticizing Saudi Arabia are important points.

Noting that Trump and the Republicans get a pass is also relevant.

Edit to add:

Omar did not say that some of her best friends were Jewish

Sander gave Omar his support

Schakowsky gave Omar her support

Hmm, saying Trump is an anti

PeraclesPlease — Wed, 22 Jan 2020 15:35:00 +0000

In reply to Bernie Sanders supported Omar

Hmm, saying Trump is an anti-semite or that Omar confronting Saudi Arabia aren't quite relevant to whether Omar acts or is anti-semitic.nor the "some of my best friends are Jewish" reference to Bernie. Again, all over the place, swing and a miss.

Bernie Sanders supported Omar

rmrd0000 — Wed, 22 Jan 2020 15:27:55 +0000

In reply to The July 2019 WSJ article

Bernie Sanders supported Omar and Vice versa

Omar is working to fight against white supremacy with Jan Schakowsky, a Jewish member of Congress

Reps. Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.) and Jan Schakowsky (D-Ill.) urged Muslim and Jewish Americans to come together to confront the threat of white nationalist violence in an editorial for CNN Tuesday.

Omar, one of two Muslim women in Congress, and Schakowsky, who is Jewish, cite the recent example of a gunman accused of killing Lori Gilbert Kaye at San Diego’s Chabad of Poway synagogue, who is also suspected in the arson of a nearby mosque and is said to have been inspired by the killing of 50 worshippers at a New Zealand mosque in Marc

“As a Muslim American and a Jewish American elected to the United States Congress, we can no longer sit silently as terror strikes our communities. We cannot allow those who seek to divide and intimidate us to succeed,” Omar and Schakowsky write. “Whatever our differences, our two communities, Muslim and Jewish, must come together to confront the twin evils of anti-Semitic and Islamophobic violence.”

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/443602-ilhan-omar-and-illinois-dem-co-author-op-ed-on-threat-of-white-nationalism

I think my post addresses the charge of Omar being anti-Semitic. I think Omar is addressing actions by Saudi Arabia and Israel, not condemning an entire ethnic or religious group.

The July 2019 WSJ article

rmrd0000 — Wed, 22 Jan 2020 14:55:02 +0000

In reply to People have to eat shit

The July 2019 WSJ article accuses Omar of Anti-Semitism, we hear Anti-Semitism from Republicans all the time.

Omar has criticized both Israel and Saudi Arabia

She apologized for her comment about the Benjamins

People have to eat shit

PeraclesPlease — Wed, 22 Jan 2020 14:39:00 +0000

In reply to Omar criticized Saudi Arabia

People have to eat shit sandwiches all the time, whether they. believe it or just fake enjoyment with it going down.

In any case, your comment is all over the fucking place. Is that intentional?

Omar criticized Saudi Arabia

rmrd0000 — Wed, 22 Jan 2020 14:31:02 +0000

In reply to Ayaan Hirsi Ali: "Can Ilhan Omar Overcome Her Prejudice?"

Omar criticized Saudi Arabia

Omar has criticized Saudi Arabia's human rights abuses and the Saudi Arabian-led intervention in Yemen.[92][93]In October 2018, she tweeted: "The Saudi government might have been strategic at covering up the daily atrocities carried out against minorities, women, activists and even the #YemenGenocide, but the murder of#JamalKhashoggi should be the last evil act they are allowed to commit."[93] She also called for a boycott of Saudi Arabia's regime, tweeting: "#BDSSaudi."[94] The Saudi Arabian government responded by having dozens of anonymous Twitter troll accounts it controlled post tweets critical of Omar.[92]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilhan_Omar

Trump has suggested that Benjamin Netanyahu was the leader of the Jews

SO LET ME get this straight: The president of the United States has called neo-Nazis “very fine people”; retweeted neo-Nazis; told an audience of Jewish-Americans that Israel is “your country”; and indulged in viciously anti-Semitic conspiracy theories. While running for office, he tweeted an image of Hillary Clinton inside a Star of David, next to a pile of cash; told an audience of Jewish donors, “You want to control your politicians, that’s fine”; and put out a campaign ad that attacked three rich and powerful Jewish figures. While a private citizen, he insisted only “short guys that wear yarmulkes” should count his money and kept a book of Adolf Hitler’s speeches on his bedside table.

He has never apologized for any of this. Nor has he been censured by Congress.

https://theintercept.com/2019/03/05/republicans-and-democrats-say-their-criticism-of-ilhan-omar-is-about-anti-semitism-theyre-gaslighting-you/

Republicans use anti-Semitic tropes

Trump and the Republicans’ favorite cable channels, Fox News and Fox Business Network, have run segments in which guests have referred to the State Department as “Soros-occupied” and accused Soros of working with the Nazis, while top-rated Fox host Sean Hannity used to regularly interview a neo-Nazi on his radio show. Their favorite news website, Breitbart, has referred to columnist Bill Kristol as a “renegade Jew” and to columnist Anne Applebaum as a “Polish, Jewish, American elitist.” Their favorite talk radio host Rush Limbaugh has spoken of a “Jewish lobby” and was accused of “borderline” anti-Semitism by the Anti-Defamation League for his comments about Jewish bankers.

https://theintercept.com/2019/03/05/republicans-and-democrats-say-their-criticism-of-ilhan-omar-is-about-anti-semitism-theyre-gaslighting-you/

Omar apologized for her statement about the Benjamins

"All About the Benjamin's" is

PeraclesPlease — Wed, 22 Jan 2020 07:09:00 +0000

In reply to Omar's comment about the

"All About the Benjamin's" is a Puff Daddy song, so part of Hip-Hop culture, with the obvious link of "Benjamin (Franklin), i.e. $100 dollar bill. So far, no reference to "Jewish".

Benjamin Netanyahu, aka Bibi, has the first name Benjamin, but is disliked by many for trying to go to war with Iran, sucking up to Republicans while insulting the (black) (Democratic) President. Making a pun between Bibi, a nasty conservative huckster known for lots of fuzzy math with his wife on campaign money, not to mention her obnoxious self-entitled behavior, along with their drunk son at strip clubs bragging about huge amounts of money he somehow has access to as child of what might be thought of as a poor public servant...

Sorry, "thieving scumbag politicians" tends to trump a usual prohibition about a mean slur against typical non-controlling non-amazungly-rich-and-well-cinnected Jews. Bibi and Sheldon Alderson don't control the world. They do affect a lot of the nastiness in the Mideast (not that Arabs and Persians who also have lots of Benjamin's don't have plenty or quite arguably the majority of the blame) and US politics (where aside from Trump's moving the embassy and recognizing Golan Heights, AIPAC's self-interested influence seems on the decline vs say evangelicals).

So fuck it - it was a clever little throwaway pun referencing a hip-hop song and a greedy corrupt Israeli politician named Benjamin - not a slur about the entire Jewish race. Oh, and having Benjamins doesnt make one rich - hocked out and hopped up coke addicts flashing hundreds was a big thing in the 70s back when $109 was worth a lot more. And sure, Bibi is as concerned about self-promotion as he is about survival against continual coreuption and embezzlement INDICTMENTS he's been fighting thru his PM position FOR YEARS. So go ahead, try to distract by a trope that in this case is true - Bibi has no moral standards - will do most anything fo a buck and to be a nasty shit. Of course Trump is the same way, but much less clever (though Trump is far "trickier", so I'm not assigning Bibi any supernatural proto-racist assignation of world-dominating cleverness - just a normal smart guy without scruples who amassed quite a bit of political power over the years surviving in a tough Israeli political scene.

BTW, what about trying to shame Omar into disavowing PTSD in her drone-bombes countrymen, supposedly cuz attributing PTSD to anyone but our sacred troops is an insult to said troops? Just like taking a knee against beating and murder of blacks is an insult somehow to "our troops_?

I liked the 70s better when free speech still existed and you could talk normal about stuff, not this twisted hyoer-formulaic gotcha propaganda.

Netanyahu's son discusses gas deal, prostitutes in strip club recording

https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/09/middleeast/israel-netanyahu-son-strip-clu...

Omar's comment about the

Ita sara — Wed, 22 Jan 2020 06:12:49 +0000

In reply to I thought it was primarily a

Omar's comment about the Benjamins, is a long well known slur on Jews, as if all Jews are wealthy (which is not true) and control everything with their wealth.

I deal with Israel by

Flavius — Thu, 25 Jul 2019 13:06:57 +0000

In reply to Ayaan Hirsi Ali: "Can Ilhan Omar Overcome Her Prejudice?"

I deal with Israel by thinking : What would I ask David Grossman ?

I do know that people behave badly when they feel they could be wiped out. Again.

Not sure if this was to me,

PeraclesPlease — Tue, 23 Jul 2019 05:01:05 +0000

In reply to I don't agree with you as

Not sure if this was to me, but I think Hirsi Ali's problems are in method and form of self-promotion rather than that she exposes backwards practices in Africa. Her insults towards Koran believers go far past or to the side of what's needed to stop genital mutilation or child brides or whatever.

Re: Omar, I was wondering how we sidestepped her point that the US was drone killing her people, the Somalis - that her "hate" is only some irrational thing re The Benjamins rather than our hesitation - often championed by the left - about indiscrimate killings in countries beyond the news, Yemen being the latest and more severe, Pakistan had the air of "what else can we do? (aside from attack wedding parties hoping to kill a few bad hombres)". Brown skinned people need not apply...

In quoting a well-known song re the influence of money in lobbying, she stepped on a deadman's switch that says "no elected official will criticize Israel's craven selfpromotion in any meaningful way". So Israel can unilaterlly kill the peace process, get us to help them go to war or play chicken with Iran, continue to act like shits towards Palestinians, and any objections like the Boycott are de facto anti-semitism.

https://www.courthousenews.com/israel-destroys-palestinian-homes-in-east...