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I missed this, Mitch got

artappraiser — Fri, 19 Jul 2019 04:27:15 +0000

In reply to Mitch here appears to me to

I missed this, Mitch got walloped back with a good one, couldn't do anything except ignore:

McConnell completely ignores the question -- twice. https://t.co/r7pIxTuFgR
— Aaron Blake (@AaronBlake) July 16, 2019

interesting, thanks for

artappraiser — Fri, 19 Jul 2019 00:25:30 +0000

In reply to In an anonymous interview,

interesting, thanks for sharing it

In an anonymous interview,

moat — Fri, 19 Jul 2019 00:22:55 +0000

In reply to Mitch here appears to me to

In an anonymous interview, Lee Atwater, spoke of the importance of keeping a firewall between the economic messaging by such as Mitch, and the dirty trick compartment:

Atwater: As to the whole Southern strategy that Harry S. Dent, Sr. and others put together in 1968, opposition to the Voting Rights Act would have been a central part of keeping the South. Now you don't have to do that. All that you need to do to keep the South is for Reagan to run in place on the issues that he's campaigned on since 1964, and that's fiscal conservatism, balancing the budget, cut taxes, you know, the whole cluster.

Questioner: But the fact is, isn't it, that Reagan does get to the Wallace voter and to the racist side of the Wallace voter by doing away with legal services, by cutting down on food stamps?

Atwater: Y'all don't quote me on this. You start out in 1954 by saying, "Nigger, nigger, nigger". By 1968 you can't say "nigger"—that hurts you. Backfires. So you say stuff like forced busing, states' rights and all that stuff. You're getting so abstract now [that] you're talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you're talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is [that] blacks get hurt worse than whites. And subconsciously maybe that is part of it. I'm not saying that. But I'm saying that if it is getting that abstract, and that coded, that we are doing away with the racial problem one way or the other. You follow me—because obviously sitting around saying, "We want to cut this", is much more abstract than even the busing thing, and a hell of a lot more abstract than "Nigger, nigger". So, any way you look at it, race is coming on the backbone.[11][12][13]

Atwater also argued that Reagan did not need to make racial appeals, suggesting that Reagan's issues transcended the racial prism of the "Southern Strategy":

Atwater: But Reagan did not have to do a southern strategy for two reasons. Number one, race was not a dominant issue. And number two, the mainstream issues in this campaign had been, quote, southern issues since way back in the sixties. So Reagan goes out and campaigns on the issues of economics and of national defense. The whole campaign was devoid of any kind of racism, any kind of reference. And I'll tell you another thing you all need to think about, that even surprised me, is the lack of interest, really, the lack of knowledge right now in the South among white voters about the Voting Rights Act.[14]

So the latest eruption is at variance with this approach because race and tribalism is a dominant issue now and the dirty tricks are being performed at the top. Fans screaming "Send her Back" is not just a way to get back at liberal policies. And in so far as they are a way to do that, Mitch is enabling a specific element of disenfranchisement as a means for those ends to be carried out.

Mitch here appears to me to

artappraiser — Thu, 18 Jul 2019 16:30:00 +0000

In reply to The dogs are already

Mitch here appears to me to be thinking: hey this is just like Lee Atwater taught us to do, worked then, it will work now?

The dogs are already

moat — Thu, 18 Jul 2019 12:46:37 +0000

In reply to Remnick is right is that

The dogs are already slathering for the tastier stuff:

Trump's racist tweets distill into a 2020 campaign rallying cry.

I hear that. There certainly

moat — Tue, 16 Jul 2019 18:33:30 +0000

In reply to No, they won't "have to own

I hear that. There certainly is not going to be much "owning up to it." But if more and more people begin to openly express themselves as their fearful leader does, it is going to change the dynamic. The double speak won't be strong enough for those who enjoy not having to hide their feelings anymore.

No, they won't "have to own

PeraclesPlease — Tue, 16 Jul 2019 18:11:27 +0000

In reply to Remnick is right is that

No, they won't "have to own it" - there are plenty of people who deny or downplay their behavior, whatever the rest of the world says. Implausible deniability is still a thing.

Remnick is right is that

moat — Tue, 16 Jul 2019 16:04:38 +0000

In reply to Searing column from Remnick.

Remnick is correct that Trump voters will have to own the racism if they continue to support him. But for the G.O.P., this latest development creates a resource problem. Now that the dogs have tasted steak, they won't be satisfied with chewing on Kibble any longer.

Example, GOP culture war,

NCD — Tue, 16 Jul 2019 04:14:37 +0000

In reply to I see how "culture war"

Example, GOP culture war, real time, today, AG Barr:

"My concern today is that under the banner of identity politics some political factions are seeking to obtain power by dividing Americans and they undermine the values that draw us together, such as a shared commitment to our country's success. This is the breeding ground for hatred and we must reject it," Barr said.

As per my point, those "seeking power", ie Democrats, are "undermining values" and our "shared commitment to our country's success. ..breeding hatred", meaning anything Trump or Republicans do or say must be accepted without opposition, and the remedy, for the "breeding hatred" Democrats is "they must be rejected."

Mr. Last is a hard core

NCD — Tue, 16 Jul 2019 03:21:49 +0000

In reply to The Evil Genius of Trump’s

Mr. Last is a hard core Weekly Standard, now Bulwark, "conservative." Most are just vacuous media shills.

Why don't the never-Trumpers defend the Michigan Republican who just quit the Party, or back Governor Weld in his run to oppose Trump's nomination?

Pelosi is certainly not going to look to them for advice, and Last's 3d chess attributed to Trump is bs, the simple explanation is Trump hates powerful women and brown ones in particular, and he's playing up the racism and will keep it up until 11/20.