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Nicholas presented the

moat — Fri, 19 Jul 2019 21:41:15 +0000

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Nicholas presented the remarks he recorded as a measure of cognitive dissonance. There is a certain kind of ritual violence unfolding in the rally that the celebrants participate in but enjoy without self-awareness of the cause of pleasure. Kibble with a secret sauce.

Jung called this condition the absence of a shadow. To live, work, and reproduce in the world but none of what is happening can ever be one's fault.

And if that is all that is possible for oneself, that is all that is possible for the enemy. "I" am not struggling with my neighbor, the Trump and the Soros are fighting on Magic Mountain for the future of the world. If those gods toss mortals into the fire as the battle goes on, that is life amongst the big boys. That is what's real.

In this The Atlantic report

artappraiser — Fri, 19 Jul 2019 06:35:42 +0000

In reply to I think that there is a very

In this The Atlantic report from the rally on the fan, it certainly sounds like the "America love it or leave it" meme was what was connecting for them,. Doesn't sound like racism or even xenophobia, rather, it's clearly branding of "the squad" as America haters, that they are out to change America into another country:

‘It Makes Us Want to Support Him More’

Amid a convulsive week in American politics, at one of the darkest rallies Donald Trump has ever held, his base showed up in force to tell the president he’s done nothing wrong.

PETER NICHOLAS

JUL 18, 2019

I'm aware it's quite possible that Nicholas was cherry picking the respondents he quoted to give that effect, but that's the way I read it. Reading was like being transported back to the late 60's on the south side of Milwaukee.

Actually, if you look at the

CVille Dem — Thu, 18 Jul 2019 18:46:34 +0000

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Actually, if you look at the rule book those prohibitions were added by GOP majority (they are dated 2016 and 2017]. I wish I could remember where I saw it. I’ll come back with it if I find it.

Time for a new edit of the rule book.

Yeah, I am not sure whether

artappraiser — Thu, 18 Jul 2019 17:23:47 +0000

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Yeah, I am not sure whether "love it or leave it" will sell anywhere near as well as in the past. After all, Trump's diehard MAGA base is smaller than the number that give him approval and the youngins everywhere are not Bannonites as they are concerned about the planet and realize that fixing it takes a global effort.

But currently, the GOP need them right now and then polls show a majority of self-identified Republicans okay with "love it or leave it". Again, also currently in the here and now, a reminder about the main demographic that helped Dems win the House: suburban swing women. They don't like this kind of thing?

Your comment brought to mind something else to me, though. That the whole AirBnB phenom is a major factor in raising the rental costs in the big metropolitan areas.Cheap compared to a hotel, but far more expensive than rent used to be, and in some places causing the rental stock itself to go down...

I do wonder if people realize

PeraclesPlease — Thu, 18 Jul 2019 07:27:08 +0000

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I do wonder if people realize that more take vacations to exotic spots thanks to cheap travel & AirBnB, that access to higher eduction + finishing high school have been climbing for years... i.e. some things going well.

I think that there is a very

artappraiser — Thu, 18 Jul 2019 03:10:14 +0000

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I think that there is a very important point being made in that article by a political science and Afro-American studies professor, that this is not the same thing as the Charlottesville comments:

The public response to Trump’s statements appeared to be a little better for him than in 2017, after the president said there were “very fine people” on both sides of a deadly white nationalist rally in Charlottesville, Virginia.

In that instance, Trump’s net approval dropped by about 10 points a week after the Charlottesville rally.

This time, while Democrats and some independents may see clear signs of racial intolerance woven throughout Trump’s tweets, Republicans are hearing a different message, said Vincent Hutchings, a political science and African-American studies professor at the University of Michigan.

“To Republicans, Trump is simply saying: ‘Hey, if you don’t like America, you can leave,” Hutchings said. “That is not at all controversial. If you already support Trump, then it’s very easy to interpret his comments that way.”

By criticizing liberal members of the House, Trump is “doing exactly what Republicans want him to do,” Hutchings said. “He’s taking on groups that they oppose.”

As distasteful as some might find it, what he is hitting on here with approval, it is very close to the "America love it or leave it" classic culture wars thing that has usually hurt Dems for decades. Probably Trump doesn't have the finessing skills to always know where to draw the line, though, and this time he just lucked out.

But plenty of people in the middling areas between left and right get real tired real quick at hearing far lefties constantly talking so much about problems that it ends up that their criticism is read as: this is a horrible country. There is a lot of wisdom in the advice to keep things positive, i.e., we can do better.

Basically I am talking about the 1968 syndrome, where rioting in rage at the Dem convention ended up getting: President Nixon. You can give off that some things are horrible (i.e., concentration camps at the border), but if you start getting the label, fairly or unfairly, of believing everything in this country is horrible and everything must change, then you're going to lose possible votes you might have had. And if you think you are getting the label unfairly, I happen think: tough shit, you should have better marketing, there's always a way to say things better.

The bowel movement is taking

PeraclesPlease — Wed, 17 Jul 2019 15:32:00 +0000

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The bowel movement is taking hold - flush with cash, flushing our values down the toilet.
A president we can (put) Depends on. Like putting the scat among the canaries.

There is an uptick in

moat — Wed, 17 Jul 2019 10:22:29 +0000

In reply to House votes to condemn Trump 'racist comments,' with only four Republicans backing the measure

There is an uptick in Republican voter support after the POTUS pooped.

Tulsi Gabbard condemned this

Orion — Wed, 17 Jul 2019 06:22:01 +0000

In reply to House votes to condemn Trump 'racist comments,' with only four Republicans backing the measure

Tulsi Gabbard condemned this immediately.

I continue to marvel at the

artappraiser — Wed, 17 Jul 2019 03:49:14 +0000

In reply to House votes to condemn Trump 'racist comments,' with only four Republicans backing the measure

I continue to marvel at the extent to which it's taken for granted that describing AOC et al as anti-American is fair. So I wrote this. https://t.co/U8FZ4sbFyg
— Philip Bump (@pbump) July 17, 2019