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A case of mistaken "identity"

PeraclesPlease — Wed, 14 Aug 2019 17:50:17 +0000

In reply to What Ails the Right Isn’t (Just) Racism

A case of mistaken "identity":

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/trump-fox-news-conservative-parano...

You are ranting.

artappraiser — Wed, 14 Aug 2019 17:47:12 +0000

In reply to You are ranting. Here is a

You are ranting.

No he is not, you are.

Republicans are responsible for their actions

Someone said they weren't? Someone claimed anyone is not responsible for their actions? This thread is about Republicans and about responsibility for actions?

It might help get better reaction if you offered what the strawman actually said (who you revealed the other day, is probably someone you work with,) the person or people you are ranting about, what they actually said to make you want to rant about this.

Edit to add: it seems almost if in your hunting and picking of news articles, you look for items that are a retort to someone else who is not on this site, a strawman. It comforts you to find an article that verifies what you would like to say to that person. But that person is not here and has nothing to do with us. And the other members here don't want to stand in for that person. No do we want to give megadittos about something we weren't talking about.

He just self-described

artappraiser — Wed, 14 Aug 2019 17:43:27 +0000

In reply to I am responding directly to

He just self-described elsewhere on this site as an extreme loner and introvert. He disagrees with others on this site often, and they with him. It's you that seems to be looking for "groupies" and you often sound angry about not getting them.

There can be a different

artappraiser — Wed, 14 Aug 2019 17:40:34 +0000

In reply to You are able to humanize the

There can be a different response if a black person identifies with Louis Farrakhan, for example.

Certainly not here. Because that group could easily be labeled as having the authoritarian “different-ism” that manifests as racism that Friedersdorf is addressing in his essay. This would actually be a very interesting point of nuance to bring to a discussion of his essay.

I am responding directly to

rmrd0000 — Wed, 14 Aug 2019 15:45:50 +0000

In reply to When you have nothing to say

I am responding directly to your posts. You and your groupies respond with no sense and ridicule.

You asked if I thought your nonsense about the email guy should have been fired, I gave you the response from Roxane Gay. You seem to count that as random snippets.

When you have nothing to say

ocean-kat — Wed, 14 Aug 2019 12:24:40 +0000

In reply to You are ranting. Here is a

When you have nothing to say you post long excerpts from random articles. First because your reading comprehension is so low you don't really understand what people are posting. Second because you don't care what people post unless it can be manipulated to serve your agenda. Third because you must win and to you that means having the last word. You're like a child, emotionally and intellectually.

You are ranting. Here is a

rmrd0000 — Wed, 14 Aug 2019 12:17:20 +0000

In reply to You have no idea what I can

You are ranting. Here is a take on the modern GOP from the NYT.

Rather like old films about wartime France — “Casablanca,” “Army of Shadows” — we tend to cast the words “collaboration” and “resistance” in black and white. The French obeyed a simple moral algorithm, we assume, one that assigned convictions, conduct and consequences to one of these two categories. This is especially true for the notion of collaboration. Ever since the short and squalid life of the Vichy regime, collaboration — and, for that matter, the reputation of the picturesque spa town where the pro-Nazi puppet regime squatted between 1940 and 1944 — has never recovered its original luster. Rather than working with others in pursuit of a common goal, collaboration now means the active betrayal of one’s country on behalf of a foreign power.

It was, no doubt, this idea of collaboration that the filmmaker Ken Burns had in mind when, in 2016, he coined the term “Vichy Republican.” With the phrase, Mr. Burns pointed an accusing finger at those politicians who, during their party’s presidential primaries, decided to work with rather than condemn then-candidate Donald Trump.

Three years later, Mr. Burns’s phrase seems prescient. With few exceptions, Republican lawmakers have accepted, if not always applauded, the gamut of morally disastrous and legally dubious acts pursued by their president. Even following the mass shootings in El Paso and Dayton, Ohio, Republicans have mostly refused to denounce or distance themselves from the president’s racist utterances and tweets.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/13/opinion/vichy-republican-trump.html

Republicans are responsible for their actions.

You have no idea what I can

ocean-kat — Wed, 14 Aug 2019 12:12:06 +0000

In reply to You are able to humanize the

You have no idea what I can do. You don't pay any attention to what any one writes here so how could you possibly know what any of us think. I don't identify with anyone. Not on dagblog, not in the place I live, not in my parents retirement community. I'm nearly completely alone. You have an agenda and you use us as mere foils to spread it. You assume that I was talking about Trump voters when I presented no evidence in my post. Simply because attacking them as Trump voters served your agenda. In fact I know some of them voted for Hillary because they told me. Some told me they don't like Trump. You are wrong. You don't think you pontificate. You come on every thread no matter what the subject and dump the same shit. The same shit even on threads where it is clearly off topic. And you expect us to smile when you do it. Not going to happen. You can just go fuck yourself.

You are able to humanize the

rmrd0000 — Wed, 14 Aug 2019 11:34:54 +0000

In reply to Perhaps you simply don’t care

You are able to humanize the Trump voters. You can identify with them despite the fact that they vote for a white nationalist with allows the Russians to hack our elections. There can be a different response if a black person identifies with Louis Farrakhan, for example.

Heretic!

PeraclesPlease — Wed, 14 Aug 2019 10:30:37 +0000

In reply to But we are basically in a

Heretic!