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I know slavery is common in

ocean-kat — Sun, 18 Aug 2019 02:25:36 +0000

I know slavery is common in history. I haven't studied for example Roman history enough to know if there was any discussion among the intellectuals at the time on the morality of slavery or whether it was universally accepted without question. But there was significant discussion in Jefferson's time. He was surely aware of that debate and he still chose to keep slaves and even use them sexually. Many of his contemporaries did not. If we're going to judge him in the context of the time that's a big part of the context.

who'd thunk you'd be one to

artappraiser — Fri, 16 Aug 2019 07:47:36 +0000

In reply to Jeffrey Epstein/Thomas Jefferson, Compare & Contrast

who'd thunk you'd be one to play a conservative, eternal, unchanging moral standards game rather than being a practitioner of relativism?

We could talk about every

ocean-kat — Fri, 16 Aug 2019 07:09:45 +0000

In reply to Though Jefferson didn't bind

We could talk about every historical figure and put them some where on graph. Jefferson at that point, Epstein at another, Genghis Khan there etc. We might even agree a lot on who goes where on the graph of most evil to most good. There's a lot of evil in homo sapiens and I'm not much into spending much time deciding who is more evil than who. Seems to me though that Epstein, and Jefferson, are some where on the evil side of that line.

Though Jefferson didn't bind

PeraclesPlease — Fri, 16 Aug 2019 06:53:00 +0000

In reply to Jeffrey Epstein/Thomas Jefferson, Compare & Contrast

Though Jefferson didn't bind his girls' feet as was rhe custom in China back then, nor fatten his concubines up at a trough til they couldn't move as done by Ugandan chieftains. We can probably pull some other now abhorred behavior out of the 1700s if you want to spin this parlor game a bit harder - even Ottomans in the Balkans, Catherine the Great stuff.

BTW, it's 2019, and some are still using bonesaws while another friend of the US purportedly cutvhis brother up and fed him to the dogs. Guess Jeffrey wasn't that bad, relativistically speaking..

Footnote: Hemings was the

jollyroger — Thu, 15 Aug 2019 18:12:06 +0000

In reply to Jeffrey Epstein/Thomas Jefferson, Compare & Contrast

Footnote: Hemings was the half-sister of' Jefferson's late wife Martha. It is offered in his defence, that he was devastated by Martha's death, and that Hemings bore striking resemblance to her. Making, I suppose, Martha's father Jefferson's father-in-law redux. Also, his model as a father of enslaved offspring of rape.