dagblog - Comments for "Boris Johnson To Call For Snap Election After Conservatives Suffer Key Parliamentary Defeat" http://dagblog.com/link/boris-johnson-call-snap-election-after-conservatives-suffer-key-parliamentary-defeat-28998 Comments for "Boris Johnson To Call For Snap Election After Conservatives Suffer Key Parliamentary Defeat" en Striked me that nothing is http://dagblog.com/comment/271252#comment-271252 <a id="comment-271252"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/boris-johnson-call-snap-election-after-conservatives-suffer-key-parliamentary-defeat-28998">Boris Johnson To Call For Snap Election After Conservatives Suffer Key Parliamentary Defeat</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Strikes me that nothing is new here, as inflammatory advocacy and polemics in "journalism" is long the tradition of our motherland, they never bothered to even try for objectivity:</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote height="" width=""> <p>No.<br /> They aren't heroes or enemies of the people.<br /> They are members of the independent judiciary and not a political plaything. <a href="https://t.co/tGxnnAzfNw">pic.twitter.com/tGxnnAzfNw</a></p> — Summary Justice (@JusticeSummary) <a href="https://twitter.com/JusticeSummary/status/1171890566021484545?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 11, 2019</a></blockquote> </div> <p>The readers are supposed to be the judges. How is that working out for them with the new information systems that are available?</p> </div></div></div> Thu, 12 Sep 2019 05:33:29 +0000 artappraiser comment 271252 at http://dagblog.com a little more clarity on "The http://dagblog.com/comment/271197#comment-271197 <a id="comment-271197"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/271196#comment-271196">John Bercow “couldn’t give a</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>a little more clarity on "The Black Rod" thing:</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">The Lords Commissioners arrive in the House of Lords. There are normally five of them, however, Baroness Smith &amp; Lord Newby have boycotted the ceremony.<br /><br /> The Commissioners send Black Rod to the House of Commons to summon MPs. <a href="https://t.co/JNbolVGhRV">pic.twitter.com/JNbolVGhRV</a></p> — Charlie Proctor (@MonarchyUK) <a href="https://twitter.com/MonarchyUK/status/1171216271511302150?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 10, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <div class="media_embed"> <blockquote height="" width=""> <p>It's all kicking off in the Commons as Bercow refuses demand from Black Rod to attend Lords for proroguing ceremony.<br /><br /> Bercow: "This is not a standard or normal prorogation" <a href="https://t.co/AsDsMDeEoN">pic.twitter.com/AsDsMDeEoN</a></p> — Adam Bienkov (@AdamBienkov) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamBienkov/status/1171217650812432386?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 10, 2019</a></blockquote> </div> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote height="" width=""> <p>John Bercow caves in and goes to the House of Lords with Black Rod.<br /><br /> Opposition MPs chant “shame on you” at Conservative MPs.<br /><br /> It is like a The Parliament of a war torn country <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Prorogation?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Prorogation</a> <a href="https://t.co/M0knK4QSjC">pic.twitter.com/M0knK4QSjC</a></p> — Charlie Proctor (@MonarchyUK) <a href="https://twitter.com/MonarchyUK/status/1171218955249143808?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 10, 2019</a></blockquote> </div> </div></div></div> Tue, 10 Sep 2019 02:06:44 +0000 artappraiser comment 271197 at http://dagblog.com John Bercow “couldn’t give a http://dagblog.com/comment/271196#comment-271196 <a id="comment-271196"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/boris-johnson-call-snap-election-after-conservatives-suffer-key-parliamentary-defeat-28998">Boris Johnson To Call For Snap Election After Conservatives Suffer Key Parliamentary Defeat</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote height="" width=""> <p>John Bercow “couldn’t give a flying flamingo” what your view is <a href="https://t.co/pqv4mYvQ7r">pic.twitter.com/pqv4mYvQ7r</a></p> — Charlie Proctor (@MonarchyUK) <a href="https://twitter.com/MonarchyUK/status/1171233176334811143?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 10, 2019</a></blockquote> </div> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">BREAKING: Speaker John Bercow is refusing Black Rod’s orders! Wow! Extraordinary! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Prorogation?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Prorogation</a> <a href="https://t.co/XU7YBZcVKL">pic.twitter.com/XU7YBZcVKL</a></p> — Charlie Proctor (@MonarchyUK) <a href="https://twitter.com/MonarchyUK/status/1171217386386677760?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 10, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Tue, 10 Sep 2019 02:01:43 +0000 artappraiser comment 271196 at http://dagblog.com The Duke of Wellington has http://dagblog.com/comment/271195#comment-271195 <a id="comment-271195"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/boris-johnson-call-snap-election-after-conservatives-suffer-key-parliamentary-defeat-28998">Boris Johnson To Call For Snap Election After Conservatives Suffer Key Parliamentary Defeat</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">The Duke of Wellington has resigned from Boris Johnson's Conservatives.<br /> No seriously. The 9th Duke is now list as non-affiliated. He was a Tory hereditary peer but quit last Wednesday, the HoL press office tell me.</p> — Joy Lo Dico (@joy_lo_dico) <a href="https://twitter.com/joy_lo_dico/status/1171067851836407809?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 9, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p>(Joy's a Brit journalist, writes for FT and others)</p> </div></div></div> Tue, 10 Sep 2019 01:54:07 +0000 artappraiser comment 271195 at http://dagblog.com PM Johnson loses another http://dagblog.com/comment/271133#comment-271133 <a id="comment-271133"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/boris-johnson-call-snap-election-after-conservatives-suffer-key-parliamentary-defeat-28998">Boris Johnson To Call For Snap Election After Conservatives Suffer Key Parliamentary Defeat</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">PM Johnson loses another cabinet member. Apparently, conservatives in Britain do not allow themselves to be cowed like Republicans in the US. <a href="https://t.co/pu6AcGtCNj">https://t.co/pu6AcGtCNj</a></p> — Joe Scarborough (@JoeNBC) <a href="https://twitter.com/JoeNBC/status/1170432263126958080?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 7, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Sun, 08 Sep 2019 05:24:05 +0000 artappraiser comment 271133 at http://dagblog.com p.s. comes to mind the common http://dagblog.com/comment/271127#comment-271127 <a id="comment-271127"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/271123#comment-271123">To me, it is clearly the</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>p.s. comes to mind the common description of Boris as more of an intentional chaos monkey,<a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/271105#comment-271105"> as in the quote I cited above,</a> along the lines of the Putin online troll plot. With Trump this is more questionable as to the intentional (though someone like Bannon saw him as an ideal agent) because it's all about the narcissism. It's still hard for me to tell whether Boris is about Boris or about bigger aims,but that's because I just don't know enough about his history.</p> </div></div></div> Sat, 07 Sep 2019 13:52:58 +0000 artappraiser comment 271127 at http://dagblog.com To me, it is clearly the http://dagblog.com/comment/271123#comment-271123 <a id="comment-271123"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/271119#comment-271119">Thanks for resurrecting that</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>To me, it is clearly the future, a total re-alignment of party and ideologies. I thought long ago that too many were in denial of this in the U.S. It was already starting to become very clear to me with advent of both neo-conservative and neo-liberal movements in the Bush years.Just in seeing the anger of traditional liberals and lefties towards neo-liberals at places like TPM Cafe, you just could see coalition trouble. Now we've got things like all these Never Trumpers, throw in the growing number of elected Republicans dropping out of running again as they have decided they just can't take the chaos anymore.</p> <p>The thing with the UK is that Brexit is pushing people to move rather than stay with the nonsensical status quo anymore. Yeah, it's been head spinning. But we'd probably see similar if there was an impeachment trial of Trump? Something big, a major chaos event, has to happen to get party regulars "woke", and realize "hey this is not really my party anymore."</p> </div></div></div> Sat, 07 Sep 2019 13:45:06 +0000 artappraiser comment 271123 at http://dagblog.com Thanks for resurrecting that http://dagblog.com/comment/271119#comment-271119 <a id="comment-271119"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/271117#comment-271117">whole shebang has me</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Thanks for resurrecting that quote. When I wrote it, I wasn't even thinking about the UK, which still retained some degree of parliamentary normality. The last month has been head-spinning.</p> </div></div></div> Fri, 06 Sep 2019 18:39:22 +0000 Michael Wolraich comment 271119 at http://dagblog.com whole shebang has me http://dagblog.com/comment/271117#comment-271117 <a id="comment-271117"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/boris-johnson-call-snap-election-after-conservatives-suffer-key-parliamentary-defeat-28998">Boris Johnson To Call For Snap Election After Conservatives Suffer Key Parliamentary Defeat</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>whole shebang has me recalling this 2017 news thread, <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/americas-new-combustible-four-party-system-23312">AMERICA'S NEW, COMBUSTIBLE FOUR-PARTY SYSTEM</a> in particular this comment by Wolraich:</p> <blockquote> <p>Fwiw, this 4-way schism is bigger than Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump, bigger than the Hamptons and Appalachia, bigger than our whole screwed up, self-obsessed country. A number European countries literally have four (or more) parties, and the left-wing and right-wing coalitions threaten to eclipse the centrists. It's not some temporary aberration that will subside in a couple years. These divisions have been growing across the Western world for decades and show no signs of abating.</p> <ul><li><a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/reply/23312/242020">reply</a></li> </ul><p><br /> by <a href="http://dagblog.com/users/genghis" title="View user profile.">Michael Wolraich</a> on Mon, 08/21/2017 - 11:05pm</p> </blockquote> </div></div></div> Thu, 05 Sep 2019 22:14:52 +0000 artappraiser comment 271117 at http://dagblog.com My speech in the European http://dagblog.com/comment/271114#comment-271114 <a id="comment-271114"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/boris-johnson-call-snap-election-after-conservatives-suffer-key-parliamentary-defeat-28998">Boris Johnson To Call For Snap Election After Conservatives Suffer Key Parliamentary Defeat</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">My speech in the European Union (Withdrawal) Bill. <a href="https://t.co/a314jFv2C9">https://t.co/a314jFv2C9</a> via <a href="https://twitter.com/YouTube?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@YouTube</a></p> — Nicholas Soames (@NSoames) <a href="https://twitter.com/NSoames/status/1169280479050252288?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 4, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Thu, 05 Sep 2019 21:55:46 +0000 artappraiser comment 271114 at http://dagblog.com