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Meanwhile countries like

PeraclesPlease — Mon, 11 Nov 2019 20:24:00 +0000

Meanwhile countries like China & India have been banning vaping, despite having by far the most deaths & illnesses from the much more hazardous regular tobbaco cigarettes. And now everyone's all worried about nicotine, even though it's basically like caffeine, ust a stimulant with no big harmful side-effects. But people having fun is worse than people dying.

Just to clarify, in a disease

rmrd0000 — Mon, 11 Nov 2019 17:20:13 +0000

In reply to Do you trust the CDC? I

Just to clarify, in a disease outbreak, state and federal agencies investigate and report their findings separately. The CDC acknowledges the previous findings of the FDA and state agencies on their website. It is a part of medical investigations to have multiple sources confirm findings. On the CDC website, they merely state this is the first time the agency found the acetate in lung tissue samples.

https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/basic_information/e-cigarettes/severe-lung-disease.html#key-facts-vit-e

I don't think the CDC wrote the headlines.

Do you trust the CDC? I

artappraiser — Mon, 11 Nov 2019 16:20:19 +0000

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Do you trust the CDC? I wouldn't advise it based on the following. The CDC announced Nov. 8 that they made a "breakthrough discovery" of the same thing that Federal FDA labs in NY state knew and reported in early Sept: the problem was Vitamin E acetate in cannabis/THC vaping products:

https://www.theverge.com/2019/11/8/20955446/cdc-vaping-breakthrough-lung-injury-investigation

https://detroit.cbslocal.com/2019/11/09/breakthrough-in-cdc-vaping-illness-investigation-vitamin-e-acetate-linked-to-thc-may-be-to-blame/

https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/basic_information/e-cigarettes/severe-lung-disease.html

The Prohibition model always

artappraiser — Wed, 18 Sep 2019 17:39:07 +0000

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The Prohibition model always seems to get such lovely results, why not try it again?

Flavored vapes are facing a ban. What does that mean for vapers?

Some are stocking up on flavored pods. Others are relying on an online "black market" when the ban is enacted.

By Terry Nguyen @ Vox.com

too many Puritans have

artappraiser — Wed, 11 Sep 2019 06:35:38 +0000

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too many Puritans have invaded the L.A. that this (wealthy & highly successful) Brit-born artist once loved:

David Hockney says he is relocating to France where he can 'smoke in restaurants' and work 'twice as much'

By Rozina Sabur @ telegraph.co.uk, Sept. 10

He is arguably Los Angeles' most famous artist, despite hailing from Bradford.

But David Hockney has revealed he is turning his back on the city where he painted some of his greatest works, because of America's censorious attitude to smoking.

The 82-year-old, who first moved to the city in 1964 after leaving art school in London, has told The Wall Street Journal that he is relocating to Normandy so that he can eat and smoke at the same time.

“I’d like to just work and paint,” he told the paper, two days before his planned move. "The French know how to live. They know about pleasure." [....]

I remember a peak "women are

PeraclesPlease — Sun, 08 Sep 2019 08:47:44 +0000

In reply to p.s. I'm basically with him:

I remember a peak "women are drinking too much!" brouhaha last year from a purported anti-Trump liberal. All thestatisticsere hyperventilated overto fret that women might go out more with the usual exaggerated worries that X drinks over whatever period makes you an alcoholic.

I recently was getting the same kind of bullshit where even a couple glasses of wine a couple tumes a week was "risky" or "still adducteive", so I quit for 2 months no problem except made lack of going out even less fun, with 0 response that maybe I wasn't at risk if being an alcoholic after all. Of course many people *are* borderline alcoholic before they tip over the line, but our PSA's are never about subtlety and differentiation - only emergencies and complete obedience to some wisdom or other.

Lemons are very acid and will

NCD — Sun, 08 Sep 2019 02:02:49 +0000

In reply to It's a real fear that someone

Lemons are very acid and will dissolve his tooth structure. No problem though if he has full dentures.

It's a real fear that someone

artappraiser — Sun, 08 Sep 2019 00:00:05 +0000

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It's a real fear that someone somewhere is enjoying themselves

bingo

Otherwise this thinking is at work:

Nobody needs lettuce to survive. Even though we spend a lot in labor to get it to market uncontaminated and inspect it, batches of it often still cause serious illness. Why do we continually play russian roulette just to have it in salads? Ban it! You want some, you should grow it in your own backyard.
Another example. My 40-something brother got addicted to raw spinach as a snack. There was just something he liked about that oxalic acid taste for some reason. He ate like a bag every other day for several years, and satisfying this craving helped him avoid being tempted by fattier snacks. He ended up in the E.R. in frightening horrific pain with a massive number of kidney stones. If we're not going to ban spinach, we should at least ban Popeye cartoons from promoting this dangerous addiction....as my brother said "why don't they tell people about this danger?"

(Update on brother: he is now addicted to lemon water, as it helps prevent kidney stones. Guzzles it daily. Who knows WTF other part of his body this is ruining?)

It's a real fear that someone

PeraclesPlease — Sat, 07 Sep 2019 23:01:01 +0000

In reply to p.s. I'm basically with him:

It's a real fear that someone somewhere is enjoying themselves, and not McDonalds. Tar in cigarettes kills, not nicotine. Caffeine is relatively harmless. THC as a microbuzz gets some people creative. Only alcohol of the bunch is a serious danger.

p.s. I'm basically with him:

artappraiser — Sat, 07 Sep 2019 13:34:15 +0000

In reply to When they actually figure out

p.s. I'm basically with him:

Have We Hit Peak Vape Panic? The war on e-cigarettes just escalated.

By Spencer Bokat-Lindell; Mr. Bokat-Lindell is a writer in The New York Times Opinion section, Sept. 5

[....] The debate: Is vaping really a public health crisis, or are its dangers being blown out of proportion? [....]

THE TAKEAWAY

The collective fever over vaping is fueled by the suspicion that somewhere, power is being abused — whether it’s the power of corporations to deceive and poison the public for profit or the power of the state to restrict bodily autonomy with puritanical, self-defeating drug laws.

Both of these suspicions find justification in history. But we don’t know whether indulging either of them, in the absence of robust oversight or conclusive research, necessarily makes for good policy. As Jia Tolentino has written in The New Yorker, “the potential public health benefit of the e-cigarette is being eclipsed by the unsettling prospect of a generation of children who may really love to vape.” Michigan just made the risky bet, then, that there is a greater public health benefit to taking the vapes away [....]