dagblog - Comments for "Andrew Yang stands by comedian after SNL firing for racist jokes" http://dagblog.com/link/andrew-yang-stands-comedian-after-snl-firing-racist-jokes-29106 Comments for "Andrew Yang stands by comedian after SNL firing for racist jokes" en it can be hard and it can be http://dagblog.com/comment/271560#comment-271560 <a id="comment-271560"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/271556#comment-271556">Johnson is funny, Gillis isn</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>it can be hard and it can be complex but it seems to me some of it is pretty simple. This chinese guy walked into a bar. How does it get funnier if we say, This chink walked into a bar. The vast majority of Americans have moved so far beyond the casual use of ethnic slurs that it can only be shockingly "funny."</p> </div></div></div> Sun, 22 Sep 2019 02:59:53 +0000 ocean-kat comment 271560 at http://dagblog.com Johnson is funny, Gillis isn http://dagblog.com/comment/271556#comment-271556 <a id="comment-271556"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/271534#comment-271534">I don&#039;t really get involved</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Johnson is funny, Gillis isn't - just nasty comments and expressions spurted out. Part of Johnson's effectiveness is she worked hard on the Vietnamese (I think?) accent. If it were a Jewish nail salon the quips about upselling might be offensive, but here the kind of tricky suave greediness seems more the nature of salon work than Vietnamese. Is faking the accent insulting to Vietnamese? Dunno. Is a mixed Latina using her accents and culture offensive to some Hispanics? And how many?</p> <p>An Indian responded to portrayals of an Indian on The Simpsons with "at least we were there". Awareness often precedes proper respectful treatment. You get a few bit parts before they make you a star. But in comedy, it's never simple.</p> </div></div></div> Sun, 22 Sep 2019 02:42:58 +0000 PeraclesPlease comment 271556 at http://dagblog.com She's a Yank! She hasn't even http://dagblog.com/comment/271555#comment-271555 <a id="comment-271555"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/271533#comment-271533">Ah but I would argue that&#039;s</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>She's a Yank! She hasn't even lived there long enough to have citizenship. Of course there's Mel or Scary Spice, not sure which one, but to me it is a pretty amazing fact or lack - no Oprahs, no Beyonces, no Halle Berry's in a country well known for its entertainers. Black female politicians or entrepreneurs? Coming up blank. (and Naomi's pretty ancient at this point, happening back when Oasis and George Michaels were a thing some 30 years ago).</p> </div></div></div> Sun, 22 Sep 2019 02:33:30 +0000 PeraclesPlease comment 271555 at http://dagblog.com I don't really get involved http://dagblog.com/comment/271534#comment-271534 <a id="comment-271534"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/271524#comment-271524">Oops, another comedian taken</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>I don't really get involved much in pop culture. I don't watch the oscars or SNL or most of these programs where these controversies come up. But I pay a bit of attention to it when it comes up in the news. This video doesn't begin to address the issue brought up by Shane Gillis' podcast. It's not about emulating an accent. It's about  using ethnic slurs in an insulting manner. It would be similar if Johnson had said,</p> <blockquote> <p>I went to the nail salon, chinks everywhere. The fucking stupid chinks couldn't even speak English. Look you chinks, if you come to our country learn English.</p> </blockquote> <p>Or how about a bit on a Jewish nail salon.</p> <blockquote> <p>Hard to believe but I went to get my nails done. I thought they were all run by chinks but no, It was all Jews, kikes every where and from start to finish they tried to jew me for a dollar here and a dollar there. You know how the kikes are, always grubbing for pennies. </p> </blockquote> <p> Decide for your self whether Gillis is funny or not, But if you're going to address the issue address the real issue. Comparing Gillis to this video of Johnson doesn't.</p> </div></div></div> Sat, 21 Sep 2019 21:28:30 +0000 ocean-kat comment 271534 at http://dagblog.com Ah but I would argue that's http://dagblog.com/comment/271533#comment-271533 <a id="comment-271533"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/271530#comment-271530">Awkward - no black female</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Ah but I would argue that's cause black native born Brits are fully assimilated citizens of empire. Entitled to all the quirks and prejudices of their fellow citizens of other skin color. They actually had to create Brexit to divide the people again?</p> <p>So what is <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meghan,_Duchess_of_Sussex"><em>Her Royal Highness, Meghan, Duchess of Sussex, Countess of Dumbarton and Baroness </em></a><em><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meghan,_Duchess_of_Sussex">Kilkeel</a> ,</em>chopped liver? An American divorcee to boot!<img alt="surprise" height="23" src="http://cdn.ckeditor.com/4.5.6/full-all/plugins/smiley/images/omg_smile.png" title="surprise" width="23" /></p> </div></div></div> Sat, 21 Sep 2019 20:40:58 +0000 artappraiser comment 271533 at http://dagblog.com Ah but by following just one http://dagblog.com/comment/271532#comment-271532 <a id="comment-271532"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/271523#comment-271523">Controversy&#039;s too much when</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Ah but by following just <a href="https://twitter.com/TitusNation">one professional comic on twitter</a> for like just a week, and seeing his interaction with colleagues, I get the impression that a lot of black comics have been suffering mightily in the recent past from not being sufficiently woke to LGBTQ concerns. The victim olympics seem to be highly operational right now in comedy world. Almost seems like comics will soon become the next oppressed identify group.</p> <p>I will just note that the baby goats are of mixed colors and play well together!</p> <p>(Aside: I am a Paul Bronks supporter and fan too, am aware of all his detractors who think him a terrible appropriator and content thief. What he is is a curator of funny animal videos, he curates the best of the best of the huge amount of content out there.  I was following him for a while but I took him off the list because he uses up too much feed--I know where to go when I am in the mood, though. <img alt="wink" height="23" src="http://cdn.ckeditor.com/4.5.6/full-all/plugins/smiley/images/wink_smile.png" title="wink" width="23" />)</p> </div></div></div> Sat, 21 Sep 2019 20:29:49 +0000 artappraiser comment 271532 at http://dagblog.com Awkward - no black female http://dagblog.com/comment/271530#comment-271530 <a id="comment-271530"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/271524#comment-271524">Oops, another comedian taken</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Awkward - no black female household names in UK besides Naomi Campbell.</p> <p><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/global/2019/sep/21/london-hughes-comedy-to-catch-a-dick-dont-hate-the-playaz">https://www.theguardian.com/global/2019/sep/21/london-hughes-comedy-to-c...</a></p> </div></div></div> Sat, 21 Sep 2019 19:30:58 +0000 PeraclesPlease comment 271530 at http://dagblog.com Oops, another comedian taken http://dagblog.com/comment/271524#comment-271524 <a id="comment-271524"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/andrew-yang-stands-comedian-after-snl-firing-racist-jokes-29106">Andrew Yang stands by comedian after SNL firing for racist jokes</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Oops, another comedian taken out - let me here you yell "Freedom!!!" (skip to 4:30 for Asian, or beginning for Latina - if lucky you can be offended by both parts)</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">I’m sorry to report that we will have to get rid of comedian Anjelah Johnson— cut to 4:30 for bit about Asian women at nailing salons. outrageous and racist &amp; she should never work again right?<a href="https://t.co/ilWJZzxEWa">https://t.co/ilWJZzxEWa</a> via <a href="https://twitter.com/YouTube?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@YouTube</a></p> — Dan Lyons (@realdanlyons) <a href="https://twitter.com/realdanlyons/status/1173979199964684289?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 17, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Sat, 21 Sep 2019 09:56:50 +0000 PeraclesPlease comment 271524 at http://dagblog.com Controversy's too much when http://dagblog.com/comment/271523#comment-271523 <a id="comment-271523"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/271503#comment-271503">“White Like Me” – Would SNL</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Controversy's too much when it comes to comedy. Keep it straight. I mean LGBTQ-aware straight. Actually get rid of the straight stuff - LGBTQ is enough. And ducks. People laugh at ducks. And kittens. And white people. And clowns.</p> <p><img alt="" src="https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/36/590x/it-chapter-2-stephen-king-pennywise-1124376.jpg" width="500" /></p> <p>ETA - and baby goats.</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">Baby goats on a slide is the start to your weekend that you didn't know you needed.<br /><br /> : <a href="https://twitter.com/CannonHallFarm?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@CannonHallFarm</a> <a href="https://t.co/B03JsXNhYZ">pic.twitter.com/B03JsXNhYZ</a></p> — Paul Bronks (@SlenderSherbet) <a href="https://twitter.com/SlenderSherbet/status/1175332341381832704?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 21, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Sat, 21 Sep 2019 06:10:00 +0000 PeraclesPlease comment 271523 at http://dagblog.com “White Like Me” – Would SNL http://dagblog.com/comment/271503#comment-271503 <a id="comment-271503"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/andrew-yang-stands-comedian-after-snl-firing-racist-jokes-29106">Andrew Yang stands by comedian after SNL firing for racist jokes</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>“<a href="https://isitfunnyoroffensive.com/eddie-murphy-plays-a-white-man-on-saturday-night-live-in-1984/">White Like Me” – Would SNL Do Whiteface In 2017?</a></p> <p>2017 Article currently trending @ Isitfunnyoroffensive.com</p> <blockquote> <p>February 23rd, 2017 – When James A. Miller, co-author of <em>Live From New York,</em> was asked to describe Eddie Murphy’s role on SNL he used four words: <a href="https://thinkprogress.org/the-forgotten-subversive-history-of-eddie-murphy-on-snl-9698270ff80f#.fzyjmb90b" target="_blank">he saved the franchise</a>. As a cast member from 1980-1984, Murphy joined the show during a time when it was full of new actors, writers and was without creator Lorne Michaels.</p> <p>SNL was diving into topics during the early 80s that were often shied away from on broadcast television, and Murphy became the consistent anchor for groundbreaking sketches. He also had to fight his way into that position after being told that executive producer Jean Doumanian only wanted one black cast member and she already had <a href="https://books.google.com/books?id=3Qx0AwAAQBAJ&amp;pg=PT197&amp;lpg=PT197&amp;dq=only+wanted+one+black+cast+member+and+she+already+had+%E2%80%9Cthe+black+guy.%E2%80%9D+eddie+murphy+snl&amp;source=bl&amp;ots=prauxNGCbg&amp;sig=KSSja63oWPU0a6YX1O6GYgL9b1w&amp;hl=en&amp;sa=X&amp;ved=0ahUKEwiJpMrr3qbSAhVB0GMKHU0FANgQ6AEIQzAJ#v=onepage&amp;q=only%20wanted%20one%20black%20cast%20member%20and%20she%20already%20had%20%E2%80%9Cthe%20black%20guy.%E2%80%9D%20eddie%20murphy%20snl&amp;f=false" target="_blank">“the black guy.”</a> Robert Townsend, the original member, hadn’t signed his contract and was replaced by Murphy after talent coordinator Neil Levy allowed him to audition.</p> <p>After leaving the show earlier in 1984, Murphy returned to host SNL in December and starred in a mockumentary-styled sketch called <a href="http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/white-like-me/n9308?snl=1" target="_blank">“White Like Me.”</a> [....]</p> </blockquote> </div></div></div> Sat, 21 Sep 2019 00:06:43 +0000 artappraiser comment 271503 at http://dagblog.com