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No one trusts police to do

artappraiser — Wed, 16 Oct 2019 00:59:43 +0000

In reply to No one trusts police to do

No one trusts police to do independent investigations.

Not a new thing. The movie Serpico came out in 1973, made Al Pacino a star. As I recall the phenomenon, us kids didn't have to apologize to the parents for calling them pigs anymore. Power corrupts, and police got it. I haven't seen protest do much to solve the problem. Investigative journalism can, though. And whistle blowers. Which means fair treatment of stories rather than sensationalizing them. The more you push them all as one with angry rhetoric, the more they are going to retreat into a tribal band of brothers. It's got to be broken from inside the tribe.The more protestors push "us vs. them" tribal memes, the worse they will get. Because when that happens, someone good who goes into policing, they'd rather stand by their nasty "brother" as the only thing keeping anarchy at bay.

The BLM movement is the worse

ocean-kat — Tue, 15 Oct 2019 23:47:56 +0000

In reply to Double down on that Michael

The BLM movement is the worse planned worst strategy movement I've seen in my lifetime. They really should look at Act Up to come up with a better strategy going forward. Act up was just so smart using their small numbers for the most effect. Every group should study how they did it.

Double down on that Michael

PeraclesPlease — Tue, 15 Oct 2019 22:04:43 +0000

In reply to No one trusts police to do

Double down on that Michael Brown fella.
I hear Jeffrey Epstein was a nice guy and Harvey Weinstein was a helluva producer.

No one trusts police to do

rmrd0000 — Tue, 15 Oct 2019 18:18:12 +0000

In reply to A dumbfuck that steals

No one trusts police to do independent investigations. Police are out of control.

(CNN)A former Georgia police officer was found not guilty of murder Monday more than four years after he killed a naked, unarmed black man who was mentally ill.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/14/us/anthony-hill-robert-olsen-trial-not-guilty/index.html

The then off-duty Chicago cop who fired his gun out of his car window, striking and killing Rekia Boyd, an innocent bystander, now wants all evidence of the criminal case filed against him cleared from the public record.

https://www.theroot.com/chicago-cop-who-quit-force-after-shooting-and-killing-r-1839043333

People are fed up

After a police officer killed an unarmed black teenager named Michael Brown five years ago this month in Ferguson, Mo., protests there rocked the nation, leading to a public outcry over race and policing. People were outraged to learn that municipalities throughout St. Louis County had been issuing traffic tickets to finance city services — and jailing drivers who could not afford to pay — with black residents bearing the brunt of those policies.

Five years later, black drivers continue to be stopped at much higher rates than white drivers, a disparity that has actually grown in Ferguson despite changes — including a new state law — that have greatly reduced the number of traffic tickets, fines and arrest warrants issued.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/06/us/black-drivers-traffic-stops.html?action=click&module=RelatedLinks&pgtype=Article

The dislike for police creates a situation where the actions of Michael Brown really don't matter. The police are hated. Anything goes for the police, so anything goes for the community. Playing nice did not save lives. Police abuse continued. It is on police departments to change the dynamic.

As rapped by NWA, "Fuck Tha Police"

https://genius.com/Nwa-fuck-tha-police-lyrics

A dumbfuck that steals

PeraclesPlease — Tue, 15 Oct 2019 17:22:00 +0000

In reply to I predicted that you would

A dumbfuck that steals ciggies and hits a shopowner and runs down the middle of the street is not the poster child you're looking for. He's the type I want police to apprehend, just not kill or abuse.

The NAACP chose Rosa Parks over another girl because she didn't have any moral issues (out of wedlock pregnancy). If only the movements of today we're that careful and strategic, rather than "anything goes".

Agreed. Will the police

PeraclesPlease — Tue, 15 Oct 2019 12:08:42 +0000

In reply to The most rational to do thing

Agreed. Will the police realize they have more than a tiny problem, that they've largely blown it, whatever the bigger problem they think has taken priority, that I suppose they assume they've been handling well?

I predicted that you would

rmrd0000 — Tue, 15 Oct 2019 12:06:00 +0000

In reply to Walking 2 guys in the middle

I predicted that you would focus on Michael Brown. The waters are not muddied. The important message is that the police are not trusted and that they have earned that status. The episode exposed the Ferguson police department used black citizens as a piggy bank. The Brown homicide exposed that the department was trash.

The fact that Michael Brown is used as shorthand for police abuse and that the Dallas police have to say that their officers are not responsible for the murder of a witness speaks volumes. The police are seen as an occupying force. The mud is created by police behavior.

The most rational to do thing

rmrd0000 — Tue, 15 Oct 2019 11:48:32 +0000

In reply to No, but it might be quite

The most rational to do thing now is to get to know your neighbors and exchange numbers. If something strange is observed, call your neighbor to verify their safety.Calling the police is the more risky option.

As Michael Harriott somewhat facetiously notes

If you think someone might be burglarizing my home, do not call the police. Because they might shoot me like they did 28-year-old Atatiana Jefferson. Or 23-year-old Brendon Hester. Or 22-year-old Stephon Clark. My television isn’t worth dying over.

If you love our people and believe black lives matter, then, by definition, you should be anti-cop.

As a black man, there is no imaginable scenario where the presence of law enforcement officers will make me safer. If my car breaks down, send a tow truck. I could wind up being shot and killed like Corey Jones, Jonathan Ferrell or Andrew Thomas. If I have a mental health emergency call a helpline or I might be slaughtered like Charleena Lyles, Quintonio LeGrier or Anthony Hill. If I look like I’m lost, just give me directions, because the police could shoot me like they did Ricky Hayes or taser me to death like they did Eurie Lee Martin. Even if I won’t wake up, slap the shit out of me because cops might decide to use 55 bullets, as they did with Willie McCoy.

https://www.theroot.com/if-you-love-me-do-not-call-the-police-1839039292

No, but it might be quite

PeraclesPlease — Tue, 15 Oct 2019 07:07:22 +0000

In reply to A door ajar does not mean

No, but it might be quite unusual, and we don't know how dangerous the neighborhood is. It wasn't a totally unreasonable option, tho now the guy totally regrets calling of course.

A door ajar does not mean

NCD — Tue, 15 Oct 2019 05:40:06 +0000

In reply to The neighbor is not at fault.

A door ajar does not mean your neighbors are being robbed.