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All people have different

artappraiser — Mon, 21 Sep 2020 08:21:11 +0000

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All people have different sense of humor, you know? There was a time when only Jewish people could tell Jewish jokes. When I was in Florida, some Jews came up to me afterwards and told me two wonderfully funny Jewish jokes, which I then incorporated in my act. Never had a complaint, because it’s obviously done because the Jews have such wonderful jokes.

That is true. We do.

And you can’t say it’s racial—what do you call it? When you wear a bandanna hat or something and people say, “Oh, it’s cultural appropriation.” I’ve never heard anything as fucking stupid in my life. It’s wonderful to learn from other cultures. It doesn’t devalue the real thing. It’s just a kind of purity. Purity always goes wrong. You know when there was the worst witch-hunting? When the Puritans were in charge. It doesn’t work to be too pure, because people deny their own negative stuff and then they start projecting it onto other people. The main thing is to be tolerant, try and listen, and try and be kind. And everything else is just waste of fucking energy!

excerpt from John Cleese Discusses Creativity, Political Correctness, Monty Python, and Artichokes

A conversation with the English comedian about artistic inspiration, cultural appropriation, and tabloid journalism.

By Michael Schulman @ NewYorker.com, September 20, 2020

Apparently a Woke Rule is

artappraiser — Mon, 03 Aug 2020 22:46:56 +0000

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Apparently a Woke Rule is that it's encouraged to "appropriate" from white western European culture?

Art-Historical References

Throughout Black Is King, there are images of Beyoncé pictured as a Madonna figure. She cradles children on beaches, and she appears to exude a graceful intensity, as though she herself has been ordained by a higher deity. Sometimes, she even appears as the Madonna in paintings where she’s seen with a halo. Such representation has its roots in Renaissance paintings by the likes of Italian painters like Duccio, Giotto, and Raphael, who emphasized the Madonna’s motherhood and equanimity through triangular compositions privileging balance and beauty.

Yet this is not the first time Beyoncé has pictured herself as the Madonna. She previously employed the photographer Awol Erizku to shoot a pregnancy announcement in which she’s shown garbed in a flowy veil amid a wreath bursting with flowers. When she gave birth, the photographer Mason Poole reprised that Madonna imagery, shooting her in a cascading fuchsia-colored gown.

Beyoncé’s reliance on the Madonna trope can be seen as part of a larger project to recontextualize these art-historical tropes—typically reserved for white women—for a new audience. Such a goal finds a corollary in something Erizku once said: “I am trying to create a new vernacular, in terms of how you see my work and black art as being universal.”

from The Art of ‘Black Is King’: Beyoncé’s New Visual Album Involves Today’s Best Artists and Curators by Alex Greenberger @ Artnews.com, Aug. 3

(I think the whole article is moronic, BTW. White guy given "woke" assignment, doing it rather poorly. Chris Offli did the contemporary "culture wars outrage" version of this decades ago. But the Roman Catholic church has been doing Madonnas in all skin colors and cultural attire for millennia now, on purpose, to sell their religion across the globe.)

2 very different issues -

PeraclesPlease — Tue, 21 Jul 2020 08:37:35 +0000

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2 very different issues -
1) compensation for musicians sucks in general, and that a Korean label will steal a song & even the dance moves without acknowledgement and pay is pretty horrible. That it then gets sold back to America as well doubles the offense. $66 for a song for a major group is chump change. Even freelance writers get paid more than that, and written copy can be churned out much faster & easier than a song. (and we expect journalists to write stories every day. We don't expect the Beatles to write 360 songs a year, and they were exceptionally prolific compared to modern songwriters)

2) asking a corporation to feel you? I mean, licensing is a wham-bam-thank-you-ma'am transaction. Companies license for commercials, for political ads, sometimes when responsible for new bands that would normally not pay royalties.

'They use our culture’: the

artappraiser — Tue, 21 Jul 2020 07:33:12 +0000

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'They use our culture’: the Black creatives and fans holding K-pop accountable

As K-pop grows, international fans and those writing and producing songs want the industry to to develop a more sensitive understanding of race

by Elizabeth de Luna @ TheGuardian.com, July 20

I have no words...

And when does appropriation

PeraclesPlease — Mon, 20 Jul 2020 10:23:00 +0000

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And when does appropriation turn into appreciation or acceptable stamped appropriation. I can imagine some icky appropriation, but i doubt that covers all

This is direct smoking gun

artappraiser — Mon, 20 Jul 2020 07:37:42 +0000

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Is it Cultural Theft? China and Indonesia Fight it Out Over Batik Art https://t.co/G90OoexaiE
— Art Recovery International (@artrecovery) July 20, 2020

Morgan Bullock is an African

artappraiser — Sat, 18 Jul 2020 19:13:47 +0000

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Morgan Bullock is an African-American Irish dancer from Richmond, Virginia

After a TikTok video of her lightning-footed jigs went viral, she was accused of "cultural appropriation"

Then she got a call from Riverdance... https://t.co/R5DSqf9jlG pic.twitter.com/sCCFXhl5br
— BBC News (World) (@BBCWorld) July 18, 2020

I should say I am cynical about the narrative here, I suspect Riverdance is pushing the persecution meme for p.r. purposes...but whatever, it's all interesting

Indonesian artist blends the

artappraiser — Sun, 12 Jul 2020 03:28:52 +0000

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Indonesian artist blends the medieval and the modern in digital art inspired by Hieronymus Bosch

Anindya Anugrah creates whimsical digital images that mix medieval and Renaissance themes with pop culture
A self-taught artist, she graduated with a law degree and left a job at a fintech company to work on her illustrations full time

@ South China Morning Post, July 12

Heh. I follow RalpieRozay

artappraiser — Sat, 13 Jun 2020 22:12:19 +0000

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Heh. I follow RalpieRozay just because he often comes up with stuff like this:

They should give everyone free empanadas now https://t.co/EW3PIze1cW
— Rozay (@RalphieRozay) June 11, 2020

Yeah, how have 1.4 billion

PeraclesPlease — Wed, 10 Jun 2020 05:05:14 +0000

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Yeah, how have 1.4 billion people achieved no Corona deaths? It's a Miracle.