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Claiming victimhood to

NCD — Tue, 22 Oct 2019 01:56:46 +0000

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Claiming victimhood to promote one's political prospects is as old as recorded history. A favorite of populist demagogues.

Saying your opposition is evil is absolutely essential, as it adds to the emotional impact.

Yeah, that part struck me too

moat — Tue, 22 Oct 2019 00:48:24 +0000

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Yeah, that part struck me too.
Born in the same Petri dish with other eager denials of charges not made.
And Jeff Sessions blurting out script like someone possessed at his confirmation hearing....

The Onion is trying to assist

artappraiser — Mon, 21 Oct 2019 19:44:30 +0000

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The Onion is trying to assist with ridicule:

Assad Starting To Feel Like Friendship With Tulsi Gabbard One-Sided After She Calls Just To Complain About The Election Again https://t.co/l4YBQdgulW pic.twitter.com/FRtbMWOhOK
— The Onion (@TheOnion) October 21, 2019

Hillary does not offer a name

rmrd0000 — Sun, 20 Oct 2019 14:33:43 +0000

In reply to Clinton suggests Russia grooming Gabbard to run as third-party 2020 candidate

Hillary does not offer a name. Tulsi shouts "How dare you call me a Russian asset". In Gabbard's initial response, she doesn't say that she (Gabbard) is not a Russian asset.

lol:

artappraiser — Sat, 19 Oct 2019 22:21:27 +0000

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lol:

Crooked Hillary Clinton just called the respected environmentalist and Green Party candidate, Jill Stein, a “Russian Asset.” They need a Green Party more than ever after looking at the Democrats disastrous environmental program!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 19, 2019

Edit to add text copy in case this tweet gets deleted!

@realDonaldTrump

Crooked Hillary Clinton just called the respected environmentalist and Green Party candidate, Jill Stein, a “Russian Asset.” They need a Green Party more than ever after looking at the Democrats disastrous environmental program!

3:47 PM - 19 Oct 2019

It's clear 98% of the

NCD — Sat, 19 Oct 2019 20:45:41 +0000

In reply to Clinton suggests Russia grooming Gabbard to run as third-party 2020 candidate

It's clear 98% of the politicians of the Republican Party would tell any lie, support any criminal, defend any outrage and sell America down the drain, as quid pro quo for a Russian or American or Ukrainian oligarchs illicit cash, lies or help, just to aid with their re-election campaigns.

Other Americans will do the same for personal fame, power or enrichment. Up to half of the entire population might go this route, lying, scamming and grifting, if the opportunity presented. Putin knows this, ergo his bots, his NRA connections, his oligarch network, and his "grooming" of ripe prospects.

It's why Trump's base idolizes him, it makes them co-conspirators in his flagrant destruction and gaming of the system they can't personally scam, or get away with defrauding.

That's not a pretty picture of where this country is, or where it may, hopefully not, be going.

Put Up or Shut Up on These

ocean-kat — Sat, 19 Oct 2019 19:51:57 +0000

In reply to Clinton suggests Russia grooming Gabbard to run as third-party 2020 candidate

Put Up or Shut Up on These Accusations, Hillary

“They’ve got their eye on someone who’s currently in the Democratic primary and are grooming her to be the third-party candidate,” Clinton said on the podcast. “She’s the favorite of the Russians. They have a bunch of sites and bots and other ways of supporting her so far.”

This is bonkers. You don’t have to look at Tulsi Gabbard’s record on foreign policy for long to find areas for fair criticism, perhaps most infamously her meeting with Bashar al-Assad at the height of the Syrian Civil War, and exhibiting a strange reluctance to criticize the dictator upon her return to the United States. She’s still not willing to say she thinks Assad is a war criminal.

Gabbard’s foreign policy views may well be wrongheaded ones. But she’s direct and honest about them, and it’s highly unlikely that she’s been bribed, brainwashed or coerced into these positions.

Yes, it’s highly unlikely that she’s been bribed, brainwashed or coerced into these positions. But that doesn't mean that Russia hasn't picked her to support and created sites and bots that pretend to be Americans to drum up support for her. Or that Americans might be duped by the sites or that Gabbard supporters might unknowingly use the information these sites provide to drum up support for her.

It's the same question we ask about Russian influence on the election and Trump. It's clear the influence was there but did Trump collude? In Trump's case I think yes, in Gabbard's I think no, but in both cases there are signs of Russian attempts to influence the election with these fake sites. It's not Gabbard's fault, nor should she be punished for it. But we certainly should be paying attention to what Russia is up to on the internet and find ways to stop it.

Yeah. Now the Democratic

CVille Dem — Sat, 19 Oct 2019 16:06:39 +0000

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Yeah. Now the Democratic Primary is between Tulsi Gabbard, who is polling at around 1% and Hillary Clinton, who is not running. She definitely would like to destroy the Democratic Party, but Hillary won’t bite.

She will probably go 3rd party and claim she was forced to do it by you-know-who.

Tulsi Gabbard to NBC’s

PeraclesPlease — Sat, 19 Oct 2019 04:56:49 +0000

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Tulsi Gabbard to NBC’s @MauraBarrettNBC tonight on the Democratic Party: “It is a party that has become a warmongering party, a party that defends these corporate special interests and the establishment rather than being the party that is truly of, by and for the people.” pic.twitter.com/i2NwXo6Gcj
— Vaughn Hillyard (@VaughnHillyard) October 19, 2019

Tulsi's tweets in reply to

artappraiser — Sat, 19 Oct 2019 04:01:21 +0000

In reply to Clinton suggests Russia grooming Gabbard to run as third-party 2020 candidate

Tulsi's tweets in reply to Hillary:

Great! Thank you @HillaryClinton. You, the queen of warmongers, embodiment of corruption, and personification of the rot that has sickened the Democratic Party for so long, have finally come out from behind the curtain. From the day I announced my candidacy, there has been a ...
— Tulsi Gabbard (@TulsiGabbard) October 18, 2019

... concerted campaign to destroy my reputation. We wondered who was behind it and why. Now we know — it was always you, through your proxies and ...
— Tulsi Gabbard (@TulsiGabbard) October 18, 2019

... powerful allies in the corporate media and war machine, afraid of the threat I pose.

It’s now clear that this primary is between you and me. Don’t cowardly hide behind your proxies. Join the race directly.
— Tulsi Gabbard (@TulsiGabbard) October 18, 2019