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Sleep-deprived, but a post on

artappraiser — Wed, 06 Nov 2019 04:43:49 +0000

In reply to HealthBeware for All: Warren pitches $21trillion high

Sleep-deprived, but a post on Warren's Medicare for All plan, with why I think a plan is necessary tactically.

I haven't seen people note her Employer Contribution smartly fights monopsony, keeping bosses and owners from eating all the surplus post-M4A. https://t.co/58X7OQIZYd
— Mike Konczal (@rortybomb) November 6, 2019

Biden campaign running with

artappraiser — Sat, 02 Nov 2019 19:16:07 +0000

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Biden campaign running with that:

No more whispers of "Warren used to be a Republican" from the Biden team. Here's @schultzohio bringing it up in response to Warren's suggestion that Biden is "running in the wrong presidential primary." pic.twitter.com/rzwzEgNohS
— Jennifer Epstein (@jeneps) November 1, 2019

I didn't say she doesn't do

PeraclesPlease — Sat, 02 Nov 2019 09:01:13 +0000

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I didn't say she doesn't do offense - I said she sux at it.

She certainly does offense

NCD — Sat, 02 Nov 2019 06:11:19 +0000

In reply to Except Warren is great on

She certainly does offense against other Democrats.

Her plan starts with personal family stories, and is full of personal pronouns, "I"s, "my"s, "my plan", "I have", 15 pages long. It's not on her website, which mainly has videos of her. Only at NPR in small window. She spends a paragraph attacking other Democrats in the plan with "my plan beats yours, if you're honest, you'll admit yours sucks".

It has the usual "we spend twice as much for healthcare, but are sicker" than every other major nation. No explanation of why that is, and how whatever caused it will disappear because she has "a plan."

Except Warren is great on

PeraclesPlease — Sat, 02 Nov 2019 04:56:04 +0000

In reply to You've hit on it. "We need

Except Warren is great on *defense*. She just sux on offense.

That's what really really

artappraiser — Sat, 02 Nov 2019 03:44:51 +0000

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That's what really really bothered me about people fainting in crowds for Obama when he was starting to gain steam in the primary. And how some of the Obamabots acted on TPMCafe, as if he were god. There was one guy who used to post audio and then just the word "Here's Obama! LISTEN!" The savior thing.

Thank god he turned out to be humble.

(Mom taught him right? You are never going to be king of the world, buster. I read somewhere he said she called him that, "buster", about doing his homework in Indonesia. )

Can I just say: it's okay if they have some natural charm in order to manage people better. But not this god-savior-rock star-he/she can do no wrong shit.

You've hit on it. "We need

NCD — Sat, 02 Nov 2019 00:45:01 +0000

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You've hit on it. "We need the boring kind of elections that EU members used to hold: competent technocrat A, technocrat B, technocrat C, them's your choices."

I'm not a both siderist, but Warren and Trump represent the same "heroic mission" ideology to their fanatical supporters. It is the opposite of your 'technocrats" who are the ones we need. It may, eventually, represent the end state of a failed democracy.

Trump "Only I can fix it!"

Warren "Only I have a plan to fix it!"

The fact that Warren has actual (thousands of words) plans and Trump has a big mouth makes little difference. Neither can do it on their own, Warren is a Ivy league wonks Trump.

The supporters of both see them as the political messiah, who, alone, will bring on the new age. That is authoritarianism. It disrespects other points of view, like Warren's attacks on Biden today, and Trump's attacks on "Never Trumpers".

Warren and Trump both fit the description of "charismatic authority", which "cannot coexist with...the ideal modern state system".

The main features of rule by 'charismatic authority' consists of a proclaimed heroic 'mission' and the presumed greatness of the leader. The personal domination of 'charismatic authority' cannot coexist with an impersonal, functional legal-rational exercise of power which lies at the foundation of the ideal modern state system.....Such authority cannot become 'systematized' without losing it's charismatic edge....

From Economy and Society, posthumously published in 1923, Max Weber.

Don't get me wrong, I like

PeraclesPlease — Fri, 01 Nov 2019 23:41:29 +0000

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Don't get me wrong, I *like* Suicide Club - just not sure Margot Robbie will be president this cycle. But geez we could use that bat in the Oval Office. (and no Nats/Astros references please)

He likes it!

artappraiser — Fri, 01 Nov 2019 23:32:30 +0000

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He likes it!

Elizabeth Warren finally has a plan to pay for Medicare for All. @Noahpinion says it's about as good as it gets https://t.co/JiENFj2etQ
— Bloomberg Opinion (@bopinion) November 1, 2019

She is apparently running for

NCD — Fri, 01 Nov 2019 23:27:26 +0000

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She is apparently running for President of progressive twitter.