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Cut the crap.

rmrd0000 — Mon, 16 Dec 2019 05:11:45 +0000

In reply to For chrissake, DOH, what do

Cut the crap.

Flavius gave an example of a racist, Confederate flag loving employer. Flavius talked about outreach to the racists to get votes for Democrats. That position was questioned by NCD. You agreed with Flavius that we were kicking poor, racist Ted in the shins. You set the criteria.

My post talked about winning 2020 with rational white voters and ethnic minorities in a coalition.

Edit to add:

Your billionaire Republicrat championed "Stop and Frisk" and now says he was never questioned about the practice until now because he is running for President. He is as much a liar as Nikki Haley.

Wow. We found ONE good Republican Governor who knows the Republican base would slaughter him if he ran against Trump.

Reminder:

Blacks complaints = pity olympics

Racist Ted = kicked in the shins by Progressives

I think many see discussing

rmrd0000 — Sun, 15 Dec 2019 23:32:57 +0000

In reply to Cut the crap.

I think many see discussing Hutus, etc. as expanding the discussion. I see it as a dodge because all you have is Lost Cause-like arguments. When we argue about things like blackface, the Confederates, hairstyles, etc, we are coming from polar opposite positions. I see no problem with that. I provide links because, while you make personal attacks about my intellect, I see myself providing a different POV and providing supporting data. I am indicating that I am not alone in my position.

I don't see why Kentuckh Republicans get special credit for being "outraged" by pardoning a beheader. I don't see Democrats as flawless. I have problems with Biden and his fond memories of segregationists. I think Buttigieg is not ready for prime time viewing his handling of police matters in South Bend. Warren is promising things she can't deliver. I will still vote for whatever Democrat is left standing. I think Russia is going to target black communities again, and will be working as hard as I can to GOTV.

For chrissake, DOH, what do

artappraiser — Sun, 15 Dec 2019 21:51:22 +0000

In reply to I see Independents and

For chrissake, DOH, what do you think we are always talking about here? Diehard Republicans?

You like links, so here's some--

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-deciders-independents/difference-maker-independent-voters-in-u-s-presidential-election-crosshairs-idUSKCN1VK128

https://www.rollcall.com/news/politics/independents-insight-2018-midterms

Simpler if you can't get that:

2016 election

Democrat 37% of electorate /for Clinton 89%/for Trump 8%
Republican 33% of electorate/for Clinton 8%/for Trump 88%
Independent 31% of electorate/for Clinton 42%/for Trump 46%

Why can't you understand the reality of swing voters mostly being in control of the results of our national elections?!! Why do you refuse to acknowledge that a sizable percentage of the electorate is neither Democrat nor Republican? And that results in surprising wins like both Obama and Trump!

Why is that so hard for you to get? Too many bible lessons or what? For some strange reason you need to constantly turn every narrative into a Manichean situation, as if the news junkies here are going to buy that, as if we are stupid and don't know that much of the rest of the country's voters don't think that way anymore! A lot of the rest of the world doesn't think that way anymore either It is not your Manichean world anymore, if it ever was. Things are more complex than a two way fight between good and evil, welcome to the 21st century, it's not 1965 anymore. We should probably have at least 4 parties, not two, but you need to make it simple and Manichean. "Us" vs. "them", Hatfield's vs. McCoy's, t hat's how to lose.

Hot tip: liberal people can and do vote for Republican governors. Republican governors are not all the same as Trump. Example: Hates Trump, is working against gerrymandering, but is still a Republican, ran a big suppposedly blue state for 8 years. Oh and you now have a Dem candidate for president who is known to give a shit about party labels because he can tell party hacks to shove their money: was a Dem who ran for mayor of a big blue city as a Republican (because he hates the Dem machine and political correctness) and won, switched to Independent for second term win, and now running for a Dem nomination for president. But to rmrd, it's still a 1960's Dem vs. Repub. world and the Civil Rights bill has yet to pass.

It doesn't have to be many.

ocean-kat — Sun, 15 Dec 2019 21:47:50 +0000

In reply to I see Independents and

It doesn't have to be many. It only has to be some. If democrats just got the Obama to Trump voters back we'd win in a landslide.

I see Independents and

rmrd0000 — Sun, 15 Dec 2019 21:08:19 +0000

In reply to A recent poll shows 52% don't

I see Independents and previously unenthusiastic Democrats coming out for Democrats in 2020. Trump's positive numbers remain high among self declared Republicans.

Going into 2020, the Pew Research Center study showed Democrats hold an advantage when factoring in independents with partisan leanings.

Of the 38 percent of voters registered as independent, only 7 percent don’t express a party leaning, according to the Pew study.

Most independents “lean” toward a party, as Kondick observed. Using the Pew data, among the 38 percent of voters nationally who registered as independent, 17 percent said they lean toward the Democratic Party, and 13 percent lean to the GOP.

Factoring in those independents’ leanings, Democrats would hold an advantage of 48 percent to 39 percent over Republicans.

https://www.reviewjournal.com/news/politics-and-government/the-middle/2020-election-up-to-the-independents-who-outnumber-dems-gop-1883684/

I don't see much data that Democrats are converting many Republicans.

Lessons from UK election

PeraclesPlease — Sun, 15 Dec 2019 20:45:12 +0000

In reply to A recent poll shows 52% don't

Lessons from UK election

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/dec/15/what-we-learned-about-t...

A recent poll shows 52% don't

ocean-kat — Sun, 15 Dec 2019 19:56:02 +0000

In reply to GOP Trump Loser Pardons Beheader, Rapists, Murderers

A recent poll shows 52% don't believe that Trump should e impeached.That is a reality. What argument do you have that would improve things?

That 48% disagree

That is the minority.

Every poll you cite simply shows that some people are reachable, whether a majority or a minority, and can be moved to our side. Your black/white scenario is clearly wrong.

That is the minority.

rmrd0000 — Sun, 15 Dec 2019 19:05:31 +0000

In reply to That 48% disagree.

That is the minority.

That 48% disagree.

ocean-kat — Sun, 15 Dec 2019 18:23:23 +0000

In reply to We disagree about things like

That 48% disagree.

"I dunno myself."

PeraclesPlease — Sun, 15 Dec 2019 18:22:00 +0000

In reply to /shrug. If you see it as a

"I dunno myself."