dagblog - Comments for "We won today" http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/we-won-today-30093 Comments for "We won today" en Sen. Angus King of ME sez (he http://dagblog.com/comment/275773#comment-275773 <a id="comment-275773"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/275763#comment-275763">Intriguing point on Bolton</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Sen. Angus King of ME sez (he who might communicate with Sen. Collins once in a while?)</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-cards="hidden" data-lang="en" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">Independent Senator Boldly Predicts Bolton News Will Make 5-10 GOP Senators Call for Witnesses <a href="https://t.co/Lh6SROuW3m">https://t.co/Lh6SROuW3m</a> <a href="https://t.co/XgAtesvrgc">pic.twitter.com/XgAtesvrgc</a></p> — Law &amp; Crime (@lawcrimenews) <a href="https://twitter.com/lawcrimenews/status/1221998833611218945?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 28, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p> </p> </div></div></div> Tue, 28 Jan 2020 03:29:11 +0000 artappraiser comment 275773 at http://dagblog.com The Drumpf-approved talking http://dagblog.com/comment/275768#comment-275768 <a id="comment-275768"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/275764#comment-275764">&quot;accompanied by a White House</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>The Drumpf-approved talking points are by Dan Bogino, which may or may not agree with what WH staff plans to do, one never knows:</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">"Nobody cares." <a href="https://t.co/N1q2YC9gY9">pic.twitter.com/N1q2YC9gY9</a></p> — Philip Bump (@pbump) <a href="https://twitter.com/pbump/status/1221795307434004481?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 27, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p> </p> </div></div></div> Mon, 27 Jan 2020 17:48:04 +0000 artappraiser comment 275768 at http://dagblog.com "accompanied by a White House http://dagblog.com/comment/275764#comment-275764 <a id="comment-275764"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/275726#comment-275726">Er some people just gave the</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>"accompanied by a White House press aide" caught my eye; they just picked up their new talking points?</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-lang="en" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">Here are the House GOP Trump surrogates leaving Pence’s Senate office just off the floor around noon today, accompanied by a WH press aide. <a href="https://t.co/6T168K0CMY">pic.twitter.com/6T168K0CMY</a></p> — Darren Samuelsohn (@dsamuelsohn) <a href="https://twitter.com/dsamuelsohn/status/1221846377900257280?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 27, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Mon, 27 Jan 2020 17:17:42 +0000 artappraiser comment 275764 at http://dagblog.com Intriguing point on Bolton http://dagblog.com/comment/275763#comment-275763 <a id="comment-275763"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/275726#comment-275726">Er some people just gave the</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Intriguing point on Bolton book effect that I just ran across at DKos:</p> <p><a href="https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/1/27/1914390/-Trump-plans-victory-lap-tour-after-throwing-Republican-Senators-under-the-bus">Trump plans victory lap tour after throwing Republican Senators under the bus</a></p> <blockquote> <p>....The White House sat on this fact long enough that Republican Senators stuck their neck out there and swore loyalty oaths to the President, only now discover the man with the mustache may make them all fools. When US Senators are wondering what happened to them, what exactly should the president be doing? Well, planning a year-long party of sorts, right?...</p> </blockquote> <p>More same:</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">Lots of GOP senators waiting to get their cues from the WH today. Odd given that they've all just realized the WH has kept them in the dark about some of the things they're already out there defending. <a href="https://t.co/D29EWWl4OU">https://t.co/D29EWWl4OU</a></p> — Eli Stokols (@EliStokols) <a href="https://twitter.com/EliStokols/status/1221842932615073792?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 27, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p><img alt="enlightened" height="23" src="http://cdn.ckeditor.com/4.5.6/full-all/plugins/smiley/images/lightbulb.png" title="enlightened" width="23" /> made me go back and find something else I just saw, I thought "oh I see, Senator Collins doesn't want to be thrown under the bus" when later conservative constituents who like Bolton types want to know "why didn't you do soemthing about the idiot?"</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">My statement on Bolton developments. <a href="https://t.co/3M59J7suts">pic.twitter.com/3M59J7suts</a></p> — Sen. Susan Collins (@SenatorCollins) <a href="https://twitter.com/SenatorCollins/status/1221822472292634625?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 27, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Mon, 27 Jan 2020 17:04:29 +0000 artappraiser comment 275763 at http://dagblog.com Er some people just gave the http://dagblog.com/comment/275726#comment-275726 <a id="comment-275726"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/we-won-today-30093">We won today</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Er <em>some people</em> just gave the contents of the draft of Bolton's "explosive account" about the Ukraine matter for his book to Maggie &amp; Michael Schmidt of the NYTimes​:</p> <div class="media_embed"> <blockquote height="" width=""> <p>SCOOP on Bolton’s unpublished manuscript:<br /> Trump told Bolton that he wanted $391 million in aid to Ukraine frozen until officials there helped with investigations into the Bidens, manuscript says<a href="https://t.co/rWoNl3qs0B">https://t.co/rWoNl3qs0B</a><br /> By <a href="https://twitter.com/maggieNYT?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@maggieNYT</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/nytmike?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@nytmike</a></p> — Clifford Levy (@cliffordlevy) <a href="https://twitter.com/cliffordlevy/status/1221569820459700239?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 26, 2020</a></blockquote> </div> <p>excerpt:</p> <blockquote> <p>[....] Mr. Bolton’s explosive account of the matter at the center of <u>Mr. Trump’s impeachment trial</u>, the third in American history, was included in drafts of a manuscript he has circulated in recent weeks to close associates. He also sent a draft to the White House for a standard review process for some current and former administration officials who write books.</p> <p>Multiple people described Mr. Bolton’s account of the Ukraine affair.</p> <p>The book presents an outline of what Mr. Bolton might testify to if he is called as a witness in the Senate impeachment trial, the people said. The White House could use the pre-publication review process, which has no set time frame, to delay or even kill the book’s publication or omit key passages [....]</p> </blockquote> </div></div></div> Sun, 26 Jan 2020 23:12:00 +0000 artappraiser comment 275726 at http://dagblog.com While I can hope for that, I http://dagblog.com/comment/275691#comment-275691 <a id="comment-275691"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/275690#comment-275690">I think Trump managed to</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>While I can hope for that, I had another phone call today that the heartland is still bolstering Trump, praising those jobs he created vs the lack of results and welfare cases from "the other guy". Hopefully the younger demo's turning, but I remain worried.</p> </div></div></div> Sun, 26 Jan 2020 04:04:36 +0000 PeraclesPlease comment 275691 at http://dagblog.com I think Trump managed to http://dagblog.com/comment/275690#comment-275690 <a id="comment-275690"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/275688#comment-275688">That&#039;s not surprising. It&#039;s</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>I think Trump managed to taint the entire Republican party. The result could be a Democratic majority in the House and the Senate. Hopefully, it also means possible election of a Democratic President. This time around, I don't think the Democratic majority will be as willing to reach across the aisle as Democrats were in the Obama administration. The Republicans may have jumped the shark.</p> </div></div></div> Sun, 26 Jan 2020 03:46:59 +0000 rmrd0000 comment 275690 at http://dagblog.com That's not surprising. It's http://dagblog.com/comment/275688#comment-275688 <a id="comment-275688"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/275683#comment-275683">This begs the question of</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>That's not surprising. It's how I feel. I'm not watching it on tv nor am I following every detail in the news I read. But that doesn't mean it's good for the president. We've already decided he's guilty, and that means most of the moderate democrats, so what every defense he puts up we won't see. It adds to the burning anger we feel for Trump and his most dedicated followers. People, a majority according to the polls think he's guilty and will express that to friends and acquaintances. And perhaps some of those on the fence will be moved to our side. </p> </div></div></div> Sun, 26 Jan 2020 02:46:09 +0000 ocean-kat comment 275688 at http://dagblog.com this says to me there's been http://dagblog.com/comment/275684#comment-275684 <a id="comment-275684"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/275683#comment-275683">This begs the question of</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>this says to me there's been a win against Trump's ego, don't know if that's good or bad as far as eventual outcome:</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">“He has a hardcore political staff. They say, ‘It’s all about the base. You might lose one voter.’ And then he backs down.” <a href="https://t.co/mR3JrEdigt">https://t.co/mR3JrEdigt</a></p> — Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) <a href="https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/1221240208970174464?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 26, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Sun, 26 Jan 2020 01:32:00 +0000 artappraiser comment 275684 at http://dagblog.com This begs the question of http://dagblog.com/comment/275683#comment-275683 <a id="comment-275683"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/we-won-today-30093">We won today</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>This begs the question of Flav's post: <em>who is "we"? and "win" what?</em></p> <p><a href="https://thehill.com/homenews/media/479876-cnns-axelrod-says-impeachment-didnt-come-up-until-80-minutes-into-focus-group?__twitter_impression=true">CNN's Axelrod says impeachment didn't come up until 80 minutes into focus group</a></p> <p>By Joe Concha @ TheHill.com - 01/24/20 10:04 PM EST</p> <blockquote> <p>Former Obama chief strategist <a href="https://thehill.com/people/david-axelrod">David Axelrod</a> said he attended a focus group with Democratic voters in Chicago on Friday, describing the gathering as "chilling" because impeachment "didn't come up" until more than an hour into the session despite it taking place amid the Senate trial of <a href="https://thehill.com/people/donald-trump">President Trump</a>.</p> <p>Axelrod, who serves as a political analyst on CNN, shared about his experience during an interview with network anchor Erin Burnett on "OutFront" on Friday night, as Democratic House impeachment managers made their final arguments in the trial before White House lawyers begin their defense of the president on Saturday.</p> <p>"I was in a focus group this morning for the Institute for Politics here at the University of Chicago with some Chicago Democratic voters, and it was chilling to hear them talk about this," Axelrod said. "Because impeachment didn’t come up, no one volunteered it, for 80 minutes into the focus group, and we’re right in the middle of the trial."</p> <p>"When it came up, they said, you know, it's terrible what he did, the case has been proven, but we know how it's going to turn out," Axelrod continued. "So we're not really that interested, we're ready to move on."</p> <p>"And I think that's what <a href="https://thehill.com/people/mitch-mcconnell">Mitch McConnell</a> and the president and the White House are banking on: [....]</p> </blockquote> </div></div></div> Sun, 26 Jan 2020 01:10:14 +0000 artappraiser comment 275683 at http://dagblog.com