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Mara Gay was part of the NYT

rmrd0000 — Fri, 24 Jan 2020 03:51:38 +0000

Mara Gay was part of the NYT editorial boards' endorsement of Warren and Klobuchar

Here is her explanation on MSNBC's " Morning Joe"

Mara Gay, a member of the New York Times editorial board, on Monday explained the newspaper's decision to endorse two candidates in the Democrat primary, for the first time ever.

"Both the radical and the realist models warrant serious consideration," the editorial said. "That’s why we’re endorsing the most effective advocates for each approach. They are Elizabeth Warren and Amy Klobuchar."

Mara Gay told MSNBC's "Morning Joe" on Monday, "The party is extremely divided, and this is really our way of narrowing that field and also just pointing out to voters that there is more than one pathway forward here.

https://www.cnsnews.com/article/national/susan-jones/ny-times-editorial-board-member-explains-double-endorsement

Well I'm pretty anti

ocean-kat — Fri, 24 Jan 2020 03:20:15 +0000

In reply to That post is enough, but I

Well I'm pretty anti-establishment too, and I support primary challenges of conservative politicians. One of the politicians referenced in the article added amendments in an important abortion bill against same sex marriage and equal pay for women. I'd have difficulty voting for someone that far out of sync with my principles.

Does that mean I think the party is scum? That I want all boomers killed? That Hillary etc. are Nazis? That's what I don't see in Mara's posts.

I don't "object" to op-ed

artappraiser — Fri, 24 Jan 2020 02:53:58 +0000

In reply to Did you object to her pieces

I don't "object" to op-ed pieces. I read them. And after a time, I might make a judgment about the writer and what angles they push and then whether they do that well enough to continue reading them or go find someone who represents the same view but writes better and is more sophisticated about challenging readers' thoughts.

Not a big fan of the agitprop type of op-ed, as you might know by now. No matter what political angle is being pushed. Don't get a lot out of "amen" and "say it again, brother" technique, left right or center.

Did you object to her pieces

rmrd0000 — Fri, 24 Jan 2020 02:46:04 +0000

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Did you object to her pieces on Michael Bloomberg or bail reform?

Bloomberg

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/17/opinion/Michael-bloomberg-stop-and-frisk.html

Bail

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/13/opinion/new-york-bail-reform.html

Complete list of NYT op-eds

https://www.nytimes.com/by/mara-gay

That post is enough, but I

artappraiser — Fri, 24 Jan 2020 02:24:37 +0000

In reply to That's a pretty extreme

That post is enough, but I did look at her Twitter feed too. She's clearly anti-classic-Dem, looks forward to them all being replaced with "The Squad" types. I would not be surprised if she was anti-Pelosi, too, too much of a compromiser. It's a very common syndrome in NYC. This is why we ended up with Republican mayors being elected, the activists are very lefty and get this impression that everyone in the city is like all their Brooklyn friends. Alas, the quiet centrists also end up voting too....

That's a pretty extreme

ocean-kat — Fri, 24 Jan 2020 02:15:25 +0000

In reply to So far, after checking

That's a pretty extreme analysis. I don't get anything near that from what I've read of Mara Gay. Do you have anything to support your analysis?

So far, after checking

artappraiser — Fri, 24 Jan 2020 01:59:32 +0000

In reply to A bit of Wokeness into every

So far, after checking further, looking like she's a divider type of woke, not a uniter, all for primarying anyone that got elected before 2016? (The party formerly know as Democratic, now a bunch of reactionary scum? Or maybe like: boomers: kill them all? Hillary a machine pol for sure, maybe even a Nazi.) We'll see.

“The party machine can’t stop us.” Great @hgoldman77 story https://t.co/wCyW2CHGdm
— Mara Gay (@MaraGay) January 23, 2020

Reading Brooks, Friedman, and

rmrd0000 — Thu, 23 Jan 2020 21:14:15 +0000

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Reading Brooks, Friedman, and Dowd is an excellent cure for insomnia.

Jamelle Bouie and Charles Blow, for example, offer different views of issues. The NYT is trying to maintain relevancy.

Bob Herbert, who filled a similar role, retired

Similar comments were made by

rmrd0000 — Thu, 23 Jan 2020 13:43:15 +0000

In reply to side topic, re: your headline

Similar comments were made by other writers at the NYT

Her remarks ricocheted across the Democratic Party on Tuesday, threatening to reopen the barely healed wounds of the 2016 primary, a race that quickly turned from a near-coronation of Mrs. Clinton as the party’s first female nominee into a bitter battle that exposed a deep ideological rift among Democrats.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/21/us/politics/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders.html

From Politico

Hillary Clinton lambasted Bernie Sanders in a forthcoming documentary as a “career politician” who “nobody likes,” savaging her rival for the 2016 Democratic presidential nomination less than two weeks before the 2020 Iowa caucuses.

The brutal remarks reopened longstanding party wounds, with multiple Obama White House alumni knocking Clinton, Sanders supporters galvanizing behind their candidate, and current and former Clinton aides rushing to her defense.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/21/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-2020-election-101339

Seems that she got the story right. The NYT has been looking for a younger audience. Age does not mean that she is not qualified

A bit of Wokeness into every

PeraclesPlease — Thu, 23 Jan 2020 11:09:28 +0000

In reply to side topic, re: your headline

A bit of Wokeness into every life must fall.