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more thoughtful speculation

artappraiser — Thu, 13 Feb 2020 00:32:22 +0000

In reply to P.S. Lindsay just found that

more thoughtful speculation from Mr. Friedersdorf:

Arguably, a shift toward social media and away from mass media has made educated elites marginally more concerned with perceived wrongs in their immediate social circles, but that's speculative
— Conor Friedersdorf (@conor64) February 13, 2020

Alternatively or concurrently, perhaps social media + call-out culture created the impression for some that one was doing one's part for social justice by being on Tumblr or Twitter
— Conor Friedersdorf (@conor64) February 13, 2020

P.S. Lindsay just found that

artappraiser — Thu, 13 Feb 2020 00:23:47 +0000

In reply to I have moved on to reading a

P.S. Lindsay just found that Conor Friedersdorf of The Atlantic is on the meme too:

Step 1: BLM mainstreamed critical race Theory, which fed a systemic racism moral panic

Step 2: Trump's rise and election is cast as only being possible in a systemically racist society like described by CRT

Step 3: Nothing else matters (Trump still president, TDS)

Explained. https://t.co/OX98HyzotJ
— James Lindsay, one-dimensional tubthumper (@ConceptualJames) February 13, 2020

I have moved on to reading a

artappraiser — Thu, 13 Feb 2020 00:18:59 +0000

In reply to Unlearning race (too late?)

I have moved on to reading a book called "Acting White?" which contains a section very early on titled "Acting like Obama," and I'm blinking twice.
— James Lindsay, one-dimensional tubthumper (@ConceptualJames) February 12, 2020

"And, yes, Obama was, dare we say, articulate."

It really says that. Why would a book based in critical race Theory, that I found in the references of a book TITLED Critical Race Theory, find cause to bring up that point in that way?
— James Lindsay, one-dimensional tubthumper (@ConceptualJames) February 12, 2020

Such hard-hitting, not-at-all-absolutely-predictable content here. pic.twitter.com/pQpnhTCUAV
— James Lindsay, one-dimensional tubthumper (@ConceptualJames) February 12, 2020

Oh my God. pic.twitter.com/Bo4kmYssjj
— James Lindsay, one-dimensional tubthumper (@ConceptualJames) February 12, 2020

For clarity, all of these examples, like most of the literature, have reasons. The "articulate" comment was a scandal around Biden saying that word, e.g., but these analyses are always so tedious and, frankly, ridiculously tendentious.
— James Lindsay, one-dimensional tubthumper (@ConceptualJames) February 13, 2020

For instance, it devotes a few pages to analyzing all-white working lunch groups versus all-Latino, referring to denials of "racial bonding" in the all-white group. This is tendentious enough without bringing up that it's them who want to make race relevant in everything.
— James Lindsay, one-dimensional tubthumper (@ConceptualJames) February 13, 2020

Other (white) critical race writers bring up ideas like "white solidarity" in a similar context, which makes me wonder what kinds of white people they hang out with...
— James Lindsay, one-dimensional tubthumper (@ConceptualJames) February 13, 2020

But if you're going to impugn colorblindness, and especially white people who are colorblind—and they do, at insane length—and you also accuse them of having "white solidarity" and doing "white racial bonding," it's probably your analysis and approach that's the problem.
— James Lindsay, one-dimensional tubthumper (@ConceptualJames) February 13, 2020

Why Some Black Puerto Ricans

artappraiser — Wed, 12 Feb 2020 01:40:03 +0000

In reply to Unlearning race (too late?)

Why Some Black Puerto Ricans Choose ‘White’ on the Census

The island has a long history of encouraging residents to identify as white, but there are growing efforts to raise awareness about racism.

By Natasha S. Alford @ NYTimes.com, Feb. 9

[....] More than three-quarters of Puerto Ricans identified as white on the last census, even though much of the population on the island has roots in Africa. That number is down from 80 percent 20 years ago, but activists and demographers say it is still inaccurate and they are working to get more Puerto Ricans of African descent to identify as black on the next census in an effort to draw attention to the island’s racial disparities.

All residents of Puerto Rico can select “Yes, Puerto Rican” on the census to indicate their Hispanic origin. But when it comes to race, residents must choose among “white,” “black,” “American Indian,” multiple options for Asian heritage, or they can write something in. Most Puerto Ricans choose “white.”

But the Trump administration’s slow response after Hurricane Maria and other natural disasters has made many Puerto Ricans reconsider their decision to identify as white Americans, said Kimberly Figueroa Calderón, a member of Colectivo Ilé, a coalition of Puerto Rican educators and organizers who are campaigning for more Puerto Ricans to identify as black on the 2020 census. “We are not the ‘citizens’ that we think we are,” she said. [....]

Because post-kids I've been a

PeraclesPlease — Mon, 10 Feb 2020 03:52:00 +0000

In reply to Original segment with Lisa

Because post-kids I've been a great Dad, I must have behaved impeccably towards women in the decades before some female colleague met me and I behaved nice.

Thanks to #GayleKing for at least trying to bring up what people won't get.

Original segment with Lisa

PeraclesPlease — Mon, 10 Feb 2020 02:43:00 +0000

In reply to more on same divisions noted:

Original segment with Lisa Leslie in abuse charges (as part of longer interview):

https://youtu.be/EazqWpWdgSs

Snoop, 50 cent, Boosie response:

response:

https://youtu.be/d3asEy7RSz0

Do we understand that the exact way journalist are being bullied into silence is the exact same way Kobe's accuser was bullied, blamed, and ultimately SILENCED into dropping the case? It's sickening! Kobe did not need to be perfect to be loved. His imperfection made him human.
— Michele J Taliaferro (@Inspire_Mi) February 6, 2020

Calvin Cordozar Broadus Jr

rmrd0000 — Mon, 10 Feb 2020 02:14:59 +0000

In reply to more on same divisions noted:

Calvin Cordozar Broadus Jr received a response from Susan Rice.

This is despicable,” she wrote. “Gayle King is one of the most principled, fair and tough journalists alive. Snoop, back the **** off. You come for @GayleKing, you come against an army. You will lose, and it won’t be pretty.”

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/02/susan-rice-snoop-dogg-back-the-off-gayle-king-for-kobe-bryant-question.html

Gayle King posted that she wasn't pleased with the clip of the Lisa Leslie interview CBS promoted

https://twitter.com/mwillmusicsoul/status/1225400312548253702

Listening to the praise

rmrd0000 — Mon, 10 Feb 2020 01:42:35 +0000

In reply to Unlearning race (too late?)

Listening to the praise Williams receives for no longer being black, and the blame placed on ethnic minorities for wanting too much "stuff" by Fukuyama, et al., one realizes that all blacks have to do to be acceptable is become white. Of course, they are allowed to bring the blues and soul music after the transition.

We need white votes, so we can't require whites to make any changes. Ted will come around some day soon. White workers are hurting, so whites don't have to make any changes. Ethnic minorities are the problem.

I think the best plan is for ethnic minorities to complain and protest. The protest can be about wage inequality, voter suppression, or even OscarsSoWhite. Just give it time and whites will be the new minority.

As it stands now, new boss, same as the old boss. Know your place. You will be told when and how you can complain.

more on same divisions noted:

artappraiser — Sun, 09 Feb 2020 23:54:53 +0000

In reply to This is honestly what happens

more on same victim olympics divisions noted:

Tell me again about how black men are being uniquely targeted for scrutiny and consequences for sexual abuse https://t.co/74sRynj0EH
— Soraya Nadia McDonald (@SorayaMcDonald) February 9, 2020

NBC News: Snoop Dogg: I didn't threaten Gayle King

THAT IS LITERALLY WHAT YOU DID IN A VIDEO YOU UPLOADED TO THE INTERNET YOU GASLIGHTING *signal fades*https://t.co/mwTKE2O4km
— Soraya Nadia McDonald (@SorayaMcDonald) February 9, 2020

Response to Yang Nah

rmrd0000 — Sun, 09 Feb 2020 03:53:33 +0000

In reply to interesting that the only

Response to Yang

Nah

Edit to add:

Yang can go fuck himself Fear does not excuse racism.

It is always ethnic minorities that have to "get over it"

By 2060, the country will be majority minority. Will the minority white population have to "get over" discrimination?