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just adding a few more names.

artappraiser — Mon, 28 Jun 2021 05:06:41 +0000

In reply to Counter-reactionaries working to staunch the wokee cultural tide

just adding a few more names for reference purposes. seeing more and more "black" folks not afraid to join this club, like these two:

Do you believe there is a country that black Americans would do better as a group in? https://t.co/AN6N51HPCJ
— Pls Don't @ Me or Quote Me (@veetocorleone) June 27, 2021

— Barrington Martin II (@_BarringtonII) June 28, 2021

He won't reply
— Pls Don't @ Me or Quote Me (@veetocorleone) June 28, 2021

and her:

Ladies and gentlemen, we present Africa Brooke: pic.twitter.com/srBR9UXcBj
— Free Black Thought (@FreeBlckThought) June 26, 2021

pic.twitter.com/hFVNI1kgYh
— Free Black Thought (@FreeBlckThought) June 26, 2021

and her:

Unpopular post...Only in America could anyone think that a prison sentence for more than twenty years is not harsh enough. If you know anything about prison, its utterly life destroying. I hope that we can move beyond the relentless desire for punishment. We need so much more.
— Keeanga-Yamahtta T. (@KeeangaYamahtta) June 25, 2021

and them:

The only real solution is to get out of the game. https://t.co/ss426rhBYR
— Free Black Thought (@FreeBlckThought) June 24, 2021

I do hear some self-hatred in that word, at times.
— Free Black Thought (@FreeBlckThought) June 25, 2021

and other colors:

Dear White People —

Please ignore the people of color claiming to speak on my behalf, claiming that I'm terrified of you (I’m not), claiming that I live in fear of you (I don’t), claiming that we have nothing in common (we do), and claiming that we can’t come together (we can).
— Keiko (@keikoinboston) June 27, 2021

The US has a larger immigrant population than any other country, yet the Left continues to
stress America’s inherent racism. If we’re such a comparatively racist, oppressive country, why do immigration numbers continue to increase across the board?
— Kenny Xu (@kennymxu) June 27, 2021

thanks but that's not the

artappraiser — Mon, 01 Feb 2021 06:09:06 +0000

In reply to Can just trim the segue on

thanks but that's not the main problem. the main problem is one person making this political about all the players and then tempting others here to argue about it with him and they do that instead of ignore him even though I asked him to stop many times.

And clearly wrongfully presuming I have an agenda of blaming "the woke" for everything in the world, that I am doing this to somehow convince someone that everything is their fault.

IT'S NOT POLITICAL TO ME, IT'S CULTURE CHANGE, I want to watch which way it goes.

Makes me realize how politics colors how many look at things here, how they look at everything politically, as if yelling "Republicans are evil" long enough and loud enough one can change reality.

And that depresses the heck out of me in itself. I don't think like that! I think knowledge is power that I can use for my own benefit. I don't labor under the delusion that I can change things by arguing on the internet that one side is evil or stupid, I'm interested in deconstructing what's going on, I don't labor under the delusion that I can change things by yelling n dagblog. I was just using this like a Note Taking device as I ran across things of related interest over time, and others like Emma and you contributed some in that spirit.

I really don't understand people who don't understand that.!!! DID THEY FLUNK COLLEGE or what? You don't say to the professor: why did you include Hitler in your 20th C history course, he was evil, we should leave him out.

Let's be blunt: I really could care less what rmrd thinks about McWhorter or Kendi or Lindsay I care what McWhorter and Kendi thinks. And I still do care what Lindsay thinks, he's got a lot of followers, it's just that he's gotten repetitive and simplistic as the same old attackers and attacks wear on him. WHICH IS EXACTLY LIKE WHAT RMRD DOES.the whole political preachy approach eventually dumbs everyone down to lowest common denominator.

Can just trim the segue on

PeraclesPlease — Mon, 01 Feb 2021 05:08:37 +0000

In reply to 48 HOURS WARNING: I HAVE

Can just trim the segue on James Lindsay

48 HOURS WARNING: I HAVE

artappraiser — Mon, 01 Feb 2021 01:49:33 +0000

In reply to Counter-reactionaries working to staunch the wokee cultural tide

48 HOURS WARNING: I HAVE DECIDED I AM GOING TO UNPUBLISH THIS THREAD

SO I DON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH PEOPLE STARTING ARGUMENTS WITH THE QUOTES OF THE PEOPLE I QUOTE ON IT as If I am them and they are me.

GIVING YOU TIME TO TAKE WHAT YOU WANT OFF OF IT

I know NCD. This thread is

artappraiser — Mon, 01 Feb 2021 01:37:29 +0000

In reply to Tracked James Lindsay. Trump

I know NCD. This thread is not about arguing politics, or the validity of the main player's points. It has never been, except when others have dragged me aggravatingly off thread. It is about RECORDING related cultural history, for good or ill from some of the main participants in the movement for and against. I'd appreciate it if people took political arguments about this elsewhere. I really don't want to do that and don't give a shit what any of you think on topic. I'm simply following what's happening in case I have to have a serious debate on it with a colleague. Quips here and there are fun but taking it so seriously, I have no interest, zero.

Suffice it to say Lindsay became a main player and then was dragged further right by all the attacks. He's obstinate and reactionary now when he used to argue reason type libertarian.

People were always welcome to comment or contribute, but no dragging it off the main purpose please. Borrow from what I find and start your own rant if you want to rant about Lindsay or anyone else. I simply want to follow what he's doing, who's staying with him, who's leaving him etc. And less so now in preference to many others, as je's degraded into repetition and anger (big argument with original co-author in one instance, for example, and I don't even find a need to post him much anymore

AND JESUS H. CHRIST IN THIS CASE IT WASN'T ABOUT LINDSAY! I TRULY JUST WANTED THAT QUOTE ON HERE.

does that mean because Karl Rove tweets a quote from Krugman, I can't use it? GEEEZZ

IT IS WHAT IT IS. THIS IS WHAT IS HAPPENING IN OUR INTELLECTUAL AND ACADEMIC CULTURE That's all. PLEASE STOP PRESUMING MY OPINION ON ANY OF THIS, none of you really know it and I see no benefit in sharing it.

Thanks

rmrd0000 — Mon, 01 Feb 2021 01:36:18 +0000

In reply to Tracked James Lindsay. Trump

Thanks

Lindsay's mindset on CRT was very clear

Another guy mentioned here frequently, Zaid Jilani, did a puff piece on Josh Hawley.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/man-in-the-arena

Now Jilani is back arguing that Hawley should not be punished for his part in encouraging the myth that the Biden election needed more verification in an article in "the American Conservative".

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/dont-burn-down-democracy-to-save-it/

Tracked James Lindsay. Trump

NCD — Mon, 01 Feb 2021 01:05:08 +0000

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Tracked James Lindsay. Trump voter. Tweeter. ("one might add peacefully", yeah, with 25,000 armed National Guard)

"The administration has changed hands (peacefully, one might add, given the hysteria around the circumstances). So, in light of his decision to vote for Donald Trump in the 2020 election, what does James Lindsay have to say about Trump now? If you want to find out, check him out here in his short-form subscribers-only podcast, James Lindsay OnlySubs, where he discusses his current opinions on the 45th president of the United States."

James, another insignificant hack, seeking significance.

there's a new Atlantic

artappraiser — Sun, 31 Jan 2021 23:47:11 +0000

In reply to Counter-reactionaries working to staunch the wokee cultural tide

there's a new Atlantic article on Chloe Valdary:

"As I see it, if woke-left or reactionary-right illiberalism wins, everyone loses. But reduce alienation in American life and both 'woke' illiberalism and Trumpist illiberalism will wither *and* their adherents will be better off."https://t.co/90OJIIx1Ow
— Conor Friedersdorf (@conor64) January 31, 2021

You posted the tweet snippet

rmrd0000 — Sun, 31 Jan 2021 23:45:56 +0000

In reply to I wanted to have that snippet

You posted the tweet snippet from James Lindsay

I commented on the tweet snippet

I called James Lindsay a hack

No need for me to track down James Lindsay.

I did not mention you at all.

oh come on, be honest, you

artappraiser — Sun, 31 Jan 2021 23:45:53 +0000

In reply to I could not possibly care

oh come on, be honest, you like the mystique of the unknown