dagblog - Comments for "Coronaviruses: No Vaccines, Herd Immunity Very Unlikely" http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/coronaviruses-no-vaccines-herd-immunity-very-unlikely-30482 Comments for "Coronaviruses: No Vaccines, Herd Immunity Very Unlikely" en The coronavirus COVID-19 is http://dagblog.com/comment/278751#comment-278751 <a id="comment-278751"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/278176#comment-278176">The age thing is bullshit</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>The coronavirus COVID-19 is affecting more than 195 countries and territories, authorities have confirmed more than  600,000 cases of the coronavirus, 140,186 recovereds and more than 22,000 deaths<br /> [URL's removed, as I don't see official content on Coronavirus at online-calculator.com, so could be malware. Sign up &amp; join us, Ben - PP]<br />  </p> </div></div></div> Mon, 30 Mar 2020 16:01:00 +0000 Ben Af comment 278751 at http://dagblog.com The age thing is bullshit http://dagblog.com/comment/278176#comment-278176 <a id="comment-278176"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/coronaviruses-no-vaccines-herd-immunity-very-unlikely-30482">Coronaviruses: No Vaccines, Herd Immunity Very Unlikely</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>The age thing is bullshit right now as far as CDC's numbers on "sick enough to be hospitalized" though of course that could change:</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">Age breakdown of 2,449 <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/coronavirus?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#coronavirus</a> patients in the U.S. with known age:<br /><br /> - 6% were aged ≥85<br /> - 25% were aged 65–84 years<br /> - 18% were aged 55–64 years<br /> - 18% were aged 45–54 years<br /> - 29% were aged 20–44 years<br /> - 5% were aged 0–19 years</p> — Caroline Orr (@RVAwonk) <a href="https://twitter.com/RVAwonk/status/1240438611490856960?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 19, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">NEW: Nearly 40 percent of U.S.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/coronavirus?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#coronavirus</a> patients sick enough to be hospitalized were aged 20 to 54, according to new CDC data from a study of 2,500 of the first recorded cases in the U.S. <a href="https://t.co/cNrnbBA8nS">https://t.co/cNrnbBA8nS</a></p> — Caroline Orr (@RVAwonk) <a href="https://twitter.com/RVAwonk/status/1240436114466451456?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 19, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Thu, 19 Mar 2020 00:49:03 +0000 artappraiser comment 278176 at http://dagblog.com Yo, space race allover agin: http://dagblog.com/comment/278175#comment-278175 <a id="comment-278175"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/coronaviruses-no-vaccines-herd-immunity-very-unlikely-30482">Coronaviruses: No Vaccines, Herd Immunity Very Unlikely</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Yo, space race allover agin:</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">JUST IN: Chinese military researchers have been ordered to win the race to develop a coronavirus vaccine</p> — The Spectator Index (@spectatorindex) <a href="https://twitter.com/spectatorindex/status/1240432308844290050?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 19, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Thu, 19 Mar 2020 00:11:23 +0000 artappraiser comment 278175 at http://dagblog.com 'An epidemiological mystery': http://dagblog.com/comment/278169#comment-278169 <a id="comment-278169"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/coronaviruses-no-vaccines-herd-immunity-very-unlikely-30482">Coronaviruses: No Vaccines, Herd Immunity Very Unlikely</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">'An epidemiological mystery': Why Is COVID-19 so much deadlier in some countries than others?<a href="https://t.co/GEzahnjqtu">https://t.co/GEzahnjqtu</a> <a href="https://t.co/dXTAPLH931">pic.twitter.com/dXTAPLH931</a></p> — Tarek Fatah (@TarekFatah) <a href="https://twitter.com/TarekFatah/status/1240405567006486528?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 18, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Wed, 18 Mar 2020 22:31:30 +0000 artappraiser comment 278169 at http://dagblog.com In case you didn't see on my http://dagblog.com/comment/278167#comment-278167 <a id="comment-278167"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/278164#comment-278164">Coronavirus vaccine</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>In case you didn't see on my thread, I do find this meme going around to be intriguing, that no vaccine is going to be found, rather universal cheap testing and development of decent treatment is the way it may go. (I.E., we haven't cured the common cold yet!)</p> <p><a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/reply/30494/278148">http://dagblog.com/comment/reply/30494/278148</a></p> </div></div></div> Wed, 18 Mar 2020 22:19:19 +0000 artappraiser comment 278167 at http://dagblog.com Coronavirus vaccine http://dagblog.com/comment/278164#comment-278164 <a id="comment-278164"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/coronaviruses-no-vaccines-herd-immunity-very-unlikely-30482">Coronaviruses: No Vaccines, Herd Immunity Very Unlikely</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Coronavirus vaccine complications, coronovirus <a href="https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article/file?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0035421&amp;type=printable">research</a> from 2012 om SARS-Coronavirus:</p> <p> </p> <p>"An early concern for application of a SARS-CoV vaccine was the experience with other coronavirus infections which induced enhanced disease and immunopathology in animals when challenged with infectious virus, a concern reinforced by the report that animals given an alum adjuvanted SARS vaccine and subsequently challenged with SARS-CoV exhibited an immunopathologic lung reaction reminiscent of that described for respiratory syncytial virus (RSV) in infants and in animal models given RSV vaccine and challenged naturally (infants) or artificially (animals) with RSV. We and others described a similar immunopathologic reaction in mice vaccinated with a SARS-CoV vaccine and subsequently challenged with SARS-CoV. It has been proposed that the nucleocapsid proteinof SARS-CoV is the antigen to which the immunopathologic reaction is directed. Thus, concern for proceeding to humans with candidate SARS-CoV vaccines emerged from these various observations."</p> </div></div></div> Wed, 18 Mar 2020 21:50:57 +0000 NCD comment 278164 at http://dagblog.com Another option is that an http://dagblog.com/comment/278105#comment-278105 <a id="comment-278105"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/coronaviruses-no-vaccines-herd-immunity-very-unlikely-30482">Coronaviruses: No Vaccines, Herd Immunity Very Unlikely</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-lang="en" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">Another option is that an existing FDA approved drug will turn out to work pretty well against COVID-19. If so, we don't need to wait the 12-18+ months for approval. It could be prescribed right now, off-label, and tide us over until a vaccination is approved.</p> — Atlee Solomon (@SolomonAtlee) <a href="https://twitter.com/SolomonAtlee/status/1239812439882870784?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 17, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-lang="en" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">Plaquenil seems to kick ass. So why aren't people getting prescriptions? ;-)</p> — Shutdowns in every state and every city, NOW (@Noahpinion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Noahpinion/status/1239812791365558272?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 17, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-lang="en" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">I talked to one MD over the weekend who said the pharmacy didn't have it in stock, though they should be able to get it by now. There are also risks of retinopathy, although it's more common if taken longer and I think higher doses. Other than that, Idk. <a href="https://t.co/ismnBQgsxy">https://t.co/ismnBQgsxy</a></p> — Atlee Solomon (@SolomonAtlee) <a href="https://twitter.com/SolomonAtlee/status/1239814713866772480?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 17, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p>to check out further:<a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Plaquenil&amp;src=tyah"> #Plaquenil</a></p> </div></div></div> Tue, 17 Mar 2020 07:25:50 +0000 artappraiser comment 278105 at http://dagblog.com It does bother me we spend so http://dagblog.com/comment/278103#comment-278103 <a id="comment-278103"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/278080#comment-278080">When we win this epidemic -</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>It does bother me we spend so much energy on a single idiot/savant at the top., hope and a prayer. A lot of demands when a pyramid foundation approach might be better. </p> </div></div></div> Tue, 17 Mar 2020 06:47:57 +0000 PeraclesPlease comment 278103 at http://dagblog.com This is why testing people http://dagblog.com/comment/278089#comment-278089 <a id="comment-278089"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/coronaviruses-no-vaccines-herd-immunity-very-unlikely-30482">Coronaviruses: No Vaccines, Herd Immunity Very Unlikely</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">This is why testing people who have symptoms won't be enough to control this virus.<br /><br /> Most infectious people don't have symptoms!<br /><br /> We need to test people BEFORE they have symptoms! <a href="https://t.co/MpkCcjfR6t">https://t.co/MpkCcjfR6t</a></p> — Shutdowns in every state and every city, NOW (@Noahpinion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Noahpinion/status/1239697419803099136?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 16, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Mon, 16 Mar 2020 23:34:15 +0000 artappraiser comment 278089 at http://dagblog.com Corporate leaders like this http://dagblog.com/comment/278081#comment-278081 <a id="comment-278081"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/coronaviruses-no-vaccines-herd-immunity-very-unlikely-30482">Coronaviruses: No Vaccines, Herd Immunity Very Unlikely</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Corporate leaders like this are not being good citizens because they have heart, they are SMART. Morals has nothing to do with it. Consumer economy means get with the war program or maybe end up not just have customers down the road or perhaps risk being nationalized down the road. </p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">LMVH sensibly shifting to make hand-sanitiser, and Matt Hancock's call for manufacturers to retool for ventilators, are signs of things to come. *All* organisations should now be asking themselves how they can urgently shift capacity towards essential goods and services. <a href="https://t.co/Q7f3Gg4EtS">https://t.co/Q7f3Gg4EtS</a></p> — Christopher Haley (@cdh1001) <a href="https://twitter.com/cdh1001/status/1239526710141386753?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 16, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p> </p> </div></div></div> Mon, 16 Mar 2020 21:17:02 +0000 artappraiser comment 278081 at http://dagblog.com