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Clearly more attentive than

librewolf — Sun, 05 Apr 2020 15:39:56 +0000

In reply to A little cheer: mammals can

Clearly more attentive than many less hairy bipeds.

I do the same with credit

librewolf — Sun, 05 Apr 2020 15:38:16 +0000

In reply to Librewolf, Thank you for such

I do the same with credit card.

I have an issue with the set aside hours. Here, there is little rhyme or reason, but the vulnerable population extends beyond those over 60. All those folks out there who are immune compromised for one reason or another need access to this service regardless of their age. For example, all the folks currently on chemo therapy, those with auto-immune disorders, transplant recipients. Then you have all the folks with heart or lung problems.

Regarding masks....

I have been using N95 masks since my double-lung transplant in 2011. The transplant team told me then to wear them in public as the standard "loop" masks would offer me no protection. Now the CDC et al. are saying that folks should use "facial covering" - including bandanas and home made masks. Further that N95 masks should be reserved for "first responders" only. Now I am worried that if I go out in my n95 mask (of which I keep a supply on hand at all times) that I will be hassled. Personally, I think all the following groups SHOULD be wearing N95 (or better) masks and respirators:

All people in infection "vulnerable" groups, and caregivers, family members thereof.

First responders

medical personnel and staff at medical facilities

ALL people in direct contact with the public (clerks, cab drivers, bus drivers, grub hub etc.). I am outraged that the folks in service and retail - especially folks like cashiers - are left totally unprotected. NOW, stores are putting up the equivalent of "sneeze guards" that offer virtually no protection for these (low paid and often uninsured) workers who deal one on one, face to face, with hundreds of people every shift.

I'm so glad I got THAT off my chest. ;~>

Or you can make your own! I

librewolf — Sun, 05 Apr 2020 14:46:00 +0000

In reply to You can use alcohol wipes,

Or you can make your own! I have an alcohol mix (alcohol 1: water 1/2) actual mix depends on the strength of your alcohol (70% would be about 1:1/3) as anything below 60% is not really effective.

Just soapy water is effective against this virus

Or peroxide mix. If using regular peroxide, use it virtually straight, It using "food grade" (which I also have for situations like this) I use 1:1/2 the site has a dilution guide https://www.intothegardenofeden.com/35-food-grade-hydrogen-peroxide

If you are using the cleaning wipes, I cut them in 1/2 or 1/4 and place in plastic bag as Handy wipes for taking places where you might need them. One doc who posted a shopping and grocery cleaning video at youtube (van wiggen i think) recommended sterilizing the inside of the cart as well as the handle.

You can use alcohol wipes,

PeraclesPlease — Fri, 03 Apr 2020 16:39:41 +0000

In reply to Librewolf, Thank you for such

You can use alcohol wipes, though if find the small med ones tend to have more alcohol than the PC/tech wipes.

Librewolf, Thank you for such

CVille Dem — Fri, 03 Apr 2020 14:53:49 +0000

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Librewolf, Thank you for such a comprehensive explanation of what to do. I also never thought once about shoes. The Whole Foods here in Charlottesville has what I call "Geezer Hour." They clean the store well every night and open one hour early for people over 60, and they do not let younger people in. Period.

When I went in (only once) I had Nitril gloves and a mask that I made. I have made several, and used a N-95 mask that I had as a model. I never believed the BS about not needing a mask when it was so obvious that asymptomatic people were spreading it. I also wore an apron that I made that covers the whole front of me and my upper back, which I took off before I got back in the car. The experience in the store was weird. Several people had masks on, and several had gloves but many did not. Some people had purses hanging off their shoulders. Everyone was moving slowly and zombie-like. The 6-foot distance was respected except by one guy, who would dash between people because he was very busy and also very important, obviously. None of the employees had masks on, and I think they should for their own protection.

I am now ordering foods on line, and will take care of them before I bring them in, although I have not been worried about regular mail. My little mom-and-pop store has the bottom half of their front door closed and the counter set up there. I had to go to the PO to mail masks to my daughter and boyfriend in NYC, and when I saw the little store I went over and got a bottle of wine. You ask for what you want and they hand it to you. Pretty slick, huh? The owner told me he is just glad to have a job.

The one thing that I do that you did not bring up, was that I put my credit card in a pocket before I leave home. That way I don't contaminate anything when I pay. I clean it off when I get back. No cash because I don't want to get handed any change.

Best of luck to you and all Dagbloggers! Stay safe!

I purchased produce through

moat — Wed, 01 Apr 2020 21:10:29 +0000

In reply to article on new rules for NYC

I purchased produce through that method this weekend.
It slackened some of the stress for all involved.

article on new rules for NYC

artappraiser — Wed, 01 Apr 2020 20:59:37 +0000

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article on new rules for NYC's greenmarkets:

Customers point at bagged vegetables from behind a rope, as if choosing diamonds from a jewelry case. Another worker puts their selections in plastic bins and slides them down the table toward the register, like handbags at an airport security check. https://t.co/NMoaFPX84R
— Anne Barnard (@ABarnardNYT) April 1, 2020

A little cheer: mammals can

artappraiser — Wed, 01 Apr 2020 20:55:49 +0000

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A little cheer: mammals can learn and change habits!

Sandra the orangutang started washing her hands because she saw all the zookeepers doing it repeatedly during the COVID-19 crisis.

Wash your hands.
Be more like Sandra. pic.twitter.com/t8TTizDGeD
— Rex Chapman (@RexChapman) April 1, 2020

From one of the guys who

rmrd0000 — Tue, 31 Mar 2020 14:06:24 +0000

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From one of the guys who sequenced the virus

Q: What mistakes are other countries making?

A: The big mistake in the U.S. and Europe, in my opinion, is that people aren’t wearing masks. This virus is transmitted by droplets and close contact. Droplets play a very important role—you’ve got to wear a mask, because when you speak, there are always droplets coming out of your mouth. Many people have asymptomatic or presymptomatic infections. If they are wearing face masks, it can prevent droplets that carry the virus from escaping and infecting others.

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/03/not-wearing-masks-protect-against-coronavirus-big-mistake-top-chinese-scientist-says

You probably found this

rmrd0000 — Tue, 31 Mar 2020 13:59:47 +0000

In reply to Thanks for the article link.

You probably found this already
From Univ Minn

https://research.umn.edu/inquiry/post/researchers-find-key-and-vulnerable-features-novel-coronavirus

Nature (article not in final form)

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2179-y