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Here's the deal - if Stacey

PeraclesPlease — Sun, 26 Apr 2020 05:46:00 +0000

Here's the deal - if Stacey Abrams can break through the polite mostly self-satisfied Trump resistance and get some serious protests and effective popular uprising going, I'll back her for VP. Biden's awfully goddamned quiet in an election/pandemic year. But I don't really wake up thinking I need another left-wing resistance chic hipster to follow on Instagram - I need a resistance leader that will crash the Republican Party and it's stranglehold. 2 years complaining about a state election? We've been complaining about Florida for 20 - buys you nothing, ask Al Gore, an actual VP. Ask that guy who shoulda been on the Supreme Court, for that matter, old whatshisname.

on Abrams:

artappraiser — Sun, 26 Apr 2020 02:53:55 +0000

In reply to oh my

on Abrams:

Amen. https://t.co/OlV8gSV9pV
— Andrew Sullivan (@sullydish) April 25, 2020

Nate Silver disses anti

artappraiser — Sun, 19 Apr 2020 09:20:01 +0000

In reply to Elizabeth Warren says she would accept being Joe Biden's running mate

Nate Silver disses anti-Warren online Bernie bro as cluelessly in a bubble of his own making and "abnormal" to boot:

Warren being chosen as VP would be a good example of something that normal Sanders supporters would like, and the fact that a few Very Online ones might not like it is a sign that they aren't really speaking for the majority. https://t.co/RLxSJJDnlG
— Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) April 16, 2020

edit to add: he had more on topic on how the media give the loud online Bernie bros too much weight:

In this story, there's lots of reporting on Sanders-friendly groups and people who *do* want Warren to be chosen, but the story is framed the opposite way, perhaps because reporters overstate the influence of the Very Online crowd (+drama makes headlines). https://t.co/4SJ73zuJg1
— Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) April 16, 2020

That's because it's absurdly

artappraiser — Sat, 18 Apr 2020 18:21:56 +0000

In reply to I also hate this quota thing.

That's because it's absurdly applied with "tokens". To play the game correctly--and it is a game about fooling people who vote with their tribal gut rather than their brain--you pick someone who can vouch for you with the tribe that doesn't exactly trust you. Like Obama picked him to get some Reagan Dem males. I.E., picking a woman isn't going to work if you're trying to get the feminist vote and the woman is Phyllis Schafly.

Yeah, at the least it's

ocean-kat — Sat, 18 Apr 2020 17:54:56 +0000

In reply to a point against her for many,

Yeah, at the least it's politically tone deaf to pick such a controversial book. The very people Biden needs to convince to vote for him are the one's who would react the most negatively to the choice of Atlas Shrugged.

a point against her for many,

jollyroger — Sat, 18 Apr 2020 16:38:35 +0000

In reply to While I've read the first two

a point against her for many, including me.

Da fuquq? Fatal, for me. I would'a liked a little Wildean hypocrisy on this point, I think Ayn Rand belongs hidden in the nightstand along with the butt plug and Gideon.

Weekend at Bernie's

jollyroger — Sat, 18 Apr 2020 16:34:00 +0000

In reply to Someone should appreciate

Weekend at Bernie's

I see what you did there...(and nice bit of irony)

I also hate this quota thing.

PeraclesPlease — Sat, 18 Apr 2020 12:57:27 +0000

In reply to He promised to pick a woman,

I also hate this quota thing. It's one thing to say, "Women will be extremely well represented in my VP search", and another to say, "I will pick a woman". Will that be a black woman? A Buddhist? Lesbian or Trans? A non-lawyer? One with a disability or disadvantaged background? From a traditionally Republican state? Military experience? Between 47 and 59? Not stereotypical attractive body type? Insomniac with panic attacks? Recovered alcoholic? Chamber orchestra aficionado? Drives a domestic automobile, preferably EV? Background in eCommerce? Packers fan or at least can tolerate?

Maybe our next Pres and VP can be picked by Facebook algorithm and save us all the bother.

He promised to pick a woman,

ocean-kat — Sat, 18 Apr 2020 08:44:49 +0000

In reply to For the party, picking Andrew

He promised to pick a woman, it wasn't a maybe. I don't see how he can go back on that now. He could go with Kamala, she's moderate enough. I don't know enough about Whitmer to guess. Honestly PP, I'm so demoralized that Biden won I can't bring myself to care. I'm just watching the show now. My heart's not in it.

For the party, picking Andrew

PeraclesPlease — Sat, 18 Apr 2020 07:57:00 +0000

In reply to I'm still having trouble

For the party, picking Andrew Cuomo as veep might be the greatest insurance policy possible,
even though either Liz or Kamala or now Gretchen would make Biden infinitely more interesting.
I don't see Klobuchar as a big help - we're back in Tim Kaine territory.
(Biden/Franken might signal some ideological consistency...)