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Yeah, I remember this young

PeraclesPlease — Wed, 22 Apr 2020 13:05:05 +0000

Yeah, I remember this young guy, maybe 25, 28, stuck in this place with old people, had 1 cassette of rockabilly country stuff to keep him from going crazy along with the tv, and he was just going to be there for a long long time. The place burned me out so quick, I quit after 2 weeks. My bad, not like anyone else would have an easier time. R member this frail old woman rolling around in her wheelchair moaning, I want to go home, I want to go home..." I asked meekly, " can I help you ma'am", and she turned to me and said, "Kiss my butt, Sonny" and then turned and went back to "I want to go home..."

Oh I should also probably

artappraiser — Wed, 22 Apr 2020 11:37:29 +0000

In reply to Well to be fair the way it

Oh I should also probably mention that nursing homes are not just for long term care, people often get sent to one for "rehab" if you're had serious illness or injury after hospital and aren't ready for home, still need nursing. Insurers usually cover that for a limited number of days. So in a real nursing home that's not "senior care", it's usually not 100% old people on their last legs. Often there's dudes who lost a leg to a wild motorcycle ride or some such mixed in. In which case they also wouldn't be getting the full "asking price" but something negotiated way down. Certainly much less a hospital or even a "long term acute care hospital" (LTAC), a new category between the two, created by the Bush administration to get Medicare money instead of Medicaid, sort of bogus, tho useful for special patients, often attached to but separated from a hospital.

Well to be fair the way it

artappraiser — Wed, 22 Apr 2020 11:24:00 +0000

In reply to Yes, cuz $7000-8000/month for

Well to be fair the way it works is that they only get that at the beginning from patients, who are quickly spent down into penury and go on Medicaid and then Medicaid gives then like a 20th of that. So it's like an upfront deposit of: gimme all your money. Unless the patients have long-term care insurance, of course, which cost them a pretty penny. I don't know for sure but I am guessing that works like with all insurance: insurance companies do not pay retail. For anything.

Yes, cuz $7000-8000/month for

PeraclesPlease — Wed, 22 Apr 2020 10:49:15 +0000

In reply to Hundreds of nursing homes

Yes, cuz $7000-8000/month for a tiny room, 3 mass produced meals a day and a poorly paid nursing staff to encourage inmates to lie in bed or sit in a chair all day while changing their diapers twice is really hard to survive on, esp. if the already owned facility is in unzoned land outside city domain. Let's say a $50 AirBnB plus $25 Olive Tree/Waffle House = $75x30 = $2250. Barely a 200-250% margin.

Hundreds of nursing homes

artappraiser — Wed, 22 Apr 2020 08:52:30 +0000

In reply to Pandemic’s Costs Stagger the Nursing Home Industry

Hundreds of nursing homes with cases of coronavirus have violated federal infection-control rules in recent years

Of about 650 homes with publicly reported coronavirus cases, 40 percent have been cited more than once with violations related to infection control, a Post analysis found

By Debbie Cenziper, Joel Jacobs and Shawn Mulcahy @ WashingtonPost.com, April 17

Forty percent of more than 650 nursing homes nationwide with publicly reported cases of the coronavirus have been cited more than once by inspectors in recent years for violating federal standards meant to control the spread of infections, according to a Washington Post analysis.

Since 2016, the nursing homes accrued hundreds of deficiencies for unsafe conditions that can trigger the spread of flu, pneumonia, urinary tract infections and skin diseases. Dozens were flagged by inspectors only months before the coronavirus pandemic struck the United States.

Among the facilities with infection-control infractions: the Pleasant View Nursing Home in Mount Airy, Md., where 24 people had died as of Thursday; the Canterbury Rehabilitation & Healthcare Center near Richmond, with 49 deaths as of Thursday; and the Brighton Rehabilitation and Wellness Center in southwestern Pennsylvania, where officials have warned that all 750 residents and staff members could be infected.

Nursing homes with publicly reported cases of covid-19

State health departments and media reports have identified more than 650 nursing homes with reported cases of the new coronavirus. Since 2016, about 40 percent had been cited more than once for infection-control deficiencies.

PURPLE: More than 1 infection-control infractions YELLOW 0-1 infection-control infractions

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