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In a sort of " moderate"

jollyroger — Thu, 30 Apr 2020 02:14:38 +0000

In reply to Indeed no individual should

In a sort of " moderate" tracing regime, you get a call outta nowhere, you feel fine, but a guy is coming in the morning to test you for active virus,

And I meant sick as in sick,

artappraiser — Wed, 29 Apr 2020 18:34:29 +0000

In reply to By "sick" I meant infected.

And I meant sick as in sick, whatever the cause.

Because there's that plenty of people don't get sick enough for hospitalization with infection. They get well and recover on their own, at home. (CNN anchor Chris Cuomo is an excellent example, he's on TV reporting from his basement nearly every night, even with 103 fever. A different example is a curator I follow on Twitter who apparently went through a horrific illness at home, alone, in quarantine in a Manhattan apartment, and is still in quarantine, and is so bitter about his experience that all he tweets is bitter anger and vitriol at those spreading the virus. Mentally, he clearly cannot get over what happened to him.)

One question there is no answer to yet is: do those people, especially those with even milder cases than my two examples, produce a sufficient number of antibodies in sufficient strength to protect them against re-infection? This is where antibody testing admittedly falls very short for the patient. No guarantees, not enough knowledge yet. No real guarantees that the person cannot still be a spreader, either.

By "sick" I meant infected.

PeraclesPlease — Wed, 29 Apr 2020 16:33:54 +0000

In reply to Or not sick yet, but

By "sick" I meant infected. So I think my 3 scenarios cover. Except if recovery/immunity is or isn't possible.

If you reach 60%

CVille Dem — Wed, 29 Apr 2020 14:54:02 +0000

In reply to Mass inoculating may be a

If you reach 60% effectiveness, AND EVERYONE GETS THE VACCINE, you have herd immunity. That means that even if someone gets sick, his/her cohorts will likely not get it and life goes on.

Or not sick yet, but

CVille Dem — Wed, 29 Apr 2020 14:50:33 +0000

In reply to Uh, either you're sick but

Or not sick yet, but detectable. Or not sick yet and undetectable today. Or not sick at all AND detectable.

The possibilities are almost endless!

Uh, either you're sick but

PeraclesPlease — Wed, 29 Apr 2020 10:33:43 +0000

In reply to Indeed no individual should

Uh, either you're sick but detectable, sick but not detectable, or not sick.

Indeed no individual should

artappraiser — Wed, 29 Apr 2020 07:39:49 +0000

In reply to I heard about it--there's a

Indeed no individual should be desiring it.More like they should be forced to, it should be required and paid for by gummint.

But that test is not going to help an individual in the very least.

Either you're sick or you're not, and if you are sick you just have to hope your symptoms are treatable. All they can do is treat symptoms. What diff does it make to the patient? The difference is that you'll be treated in quarantine hell ward if you get real sick and test positive. While regular uninfected stroke and pneumonia etc. patients would be elsewhere.

I think the free study is for people who have already been tested positive for antibodies? That they want samples of their antibodies to study.

Why wouldn't you want to know if you already had antibodies? Much less anxiety knowing that. There's still a chance to catch it, but far far lessened. Relief from paranoia.

I heard about it--there's a

jollyroger — Wed, 29 Apr 2020 07:22:30 +0000

In reply to Found a review. It's a full

I heard about it--there's a free study from the NIH soliciting people also.

I think the more iimportant test is the one you don't want to want...

Found a review. It's a full

artappraiser — Wed, 29 Apr 2020 05:50:16 +0000

In reply to I registered. This "Quest

Found a review. It's a full blood draw test, and Quest is using two systems: the Abbott machines and the EuroImmun/Perkin/Elmer system. What I didn't know, thought they were just in this area, they have 2,200 patient service centers.. around the U.S. $119 to know whether you have the antibodies while avoiding the begging your busy doctor problem! You can show to your doctor later. Heck if you get positive for antibodies, you can show to the police officer who is harassing you.

https://www.massdevice.com/quest-diagnostics-launches-patient-ordered-covid-19-antibody-test/

Maybe insurer would even reimburse part if you submit the bill!

I registered. This "Quest

artappraiser — Wed, 29 Apr 2020 05:41:11 +0000

In reply to holy shit, just alerted to

I registered. This "Quest Direct" tests paid for by patient use the exact same facilities as all the doctors do, there is no difference

About half their NYC offices seem to be open, with reduced hours. Lots in Westchester,too. Their past rules were they prefer you make an appt. but walk ins were always okay too (Common practice now: Dr. writes script, tells you to go get test, so that he doesn't have to employ aides to draw blood and label and have picked up by Quest.) I would think because of coronavirus, they wouldn't like walk-ins anymore in order to stagger people in waiting room.

So yeah in NYC area now, it's possible to get an antibody test from a good medical lab for $119. (Other tests available without prescription now, too! Finally!!!!!) What I don't know is the quality of this one.