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When you are young, you are

rmrd0000 — Sat, 09 May 2020 00:58:59 +0000

When you are young, you are not thankful that things are better than they were 50 years ago. Young people look at their status as it exists today, You see armed whites wanting businesses to reopen. You see the data the the groups most at risk are marginalized groups. You actually hear white politicians telling you that Big Mama should be sacrificed. Trump is President and feeding red meat to majority white rallies. You are pissed.

If you listen closely to the panel, you hear older people telling you to let things go. That is not going to happen. McWhorter tells you that the police are not a big threat. If you personally have not have had a bad interaction with police, you know or have heard of someone who has. You turn on your television or read stories on your iPad about a black man shot by Dallas police while in his own apartment. You see video of a black man shot three times while jogging in Georgia. In both cases, local law enforcement made no arrests. It took public pressure to get both cases to trial. When the white Dallas police officer is convicted, you see the black judge hug the officer. No hugs for the murdered man's family. You feel that McWhorter is a fool. That is why several of the panelists say their students think that the panelists are out of touch.

Orlando Patterson correctly says that most whites have no problem accepting blacks, but he also acknowledges that there are about 20% of whites who are racists. He says that they will not change. He tells his black students to "get over it". He then will chastise black students for the cultural error of listening to rap music. McWhorter and Williams follow suit. Blacks have to change, the racist whites will always be with us.

The students also know that there are more men in their age group in college than in jail. They are aware of the decreasing homicide rates. They realize the homicide rate is too high, but damn, if you want students to be thankful that conditions are better because whites have gotten better, at least point out that in most places the black homicide rate and teen pregnancy rates decreased.

(Edited to correct typos)

You're welcome.

rmrd0000 — Sat, 09 May 2020 00:54:21 +0000

In reply to Thank you for the thoughtful

You're welcome.

Thank you for the thoughtful

moat — Sat, 09 May 2020 00:14:18 +0000

In reply to When you are young, you are

Thank you for the thoughtful response.

What are they not seeing?

moat — Fri, 08 May 2020 22:33:27 +0000

In reply to The models do not explain the

What are they not seeing?

Edit: I am not asking because I know the answer.

The models do not explain the

rmrd0000 — Fri, 08 May 2020 20:44:57 +0000

In reply to Maybe they should read. Or

The models do not explain the decrease in homicides.

Edit to add:

The are so focused on culture and Coates, they seem not to notice that things have changed. They have a blind spot.

Maybe they should read. Or

PeraclesPlease — Fri, 08 May 2020 20:26:07 +0000

In reply to Doesn't seem to be helping

Maybe they should read. Or even take some of their schools' Organization and Management classes.

Very interesting discussion.

moat — Fri, 08 May 2020 19:36:53 +0000

In reply to The Black Intellectual & The Condition of the Culture

Very interesting discussion. I got half way through and realized I was going too fast and will have to start over.
The observations made by the audience members are some of the best parts.

Doesn't seem to be helping

rmrd0000 — Fri, 08 May 2020 18:04:05 +0000

In reply to Wow, are you dismissing the 2

Doesn't seem to be helping the panelists understand why their students are pissed.

Wow, are you dismissing the 2

PeraclesPlease — Fri, 08 May 2020 17:17:00 +0000

In reply to Humans are biological

Wow, are you dismissing the 2 most influential organizational psychologists of the last century because... what exactly? You don't like triangles? (a pyramid, technically - and that's Maslow - Herzberg's the two-factor theory.

(Maslow introduced positive aspects into Psychology - not just a bag of problems, but positive aspects too. - try it sometime)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_Maslow#Maslow's_contributions

Humans are biological

rmrd0000 — Fri, 08 May 2020 17:03:39 +0000

In reply to Crime falls under hygiene

Humans are biological oscillators. Academicians are sometimes slow to adapt to change. As we watch the response to the coronavirus and see new phenomena occurring with asymptomatic hypoxia, blood clotting disorders, strokes, right heart failure, abnormal heart vessels in children, etc, we see the limitations of our perceptions. Ventilator therapy has changed. The pathophysiology is not understood. Researchers are truly observers.

I view the same thing happening in the social sciences. There is a box (or triangle) and we try to force observations to fit the triangle. The homicide rate decreased despite hardcore rap, unwed mothers, poverty, etc. Models do not explain what we see. We then observe and record results rather than force what we see into a figure previously created. We may need more than one dimension.

The panelists are confused by why they see scowls on campus. This tells us that their models are crap.