dagblog - Comments for "(Coronavirus infection) The Risks - Know Them - Avoid Them" http://dagblog.com/link/coronavirus-infection-risks-know-them-avoid-them-31206 Comments for "(Coronavirus infection) The Risks - Know Them - Avoid Them" en “We think that it’s a post http://dagblog.com/comment/281487#comment-281487 <a id="comment-281487"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/coronavirus-infection-risks-know-them-avoid-them-31206">(Coronavirus infection) The Risks - Know Them - Avoid Them</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">“We think that it’s a post infectious complication,” Dr. Megan Ranney says of a rare COVID-19 related illness that has sickened over 90 children. “What’s scary about it is that we thought that the kids were okay and now they’re not.” <a href="https://t.co/foLbUdBYp4">https://t.co/foLbUdBYp4</a></p> — MSNBC (@MSNBC) <a href="https://twitter.com/MSNBC/status/1260329182019624967?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 12, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Tue, 12 May 2020 23:09:20 +0000 artappraiser comment 281487 at http://dagblog.com We are all deluding ourselves http://dagblog.com/comment/281407#comment-281407 <a id="comment-281407"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/coronavirus-infection-risks-know-them-avoid-them-31206">(Coronavirus infection) The Risks - Know Them - Avoid Them</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>We are all deluding ourselves in a way. Got to get used to this, judging one's own risks for a good long time. Cause:</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">Even finding a covid-19 vaccine won’t be enough to end the pandemic <a href="https://t.co/K3Rkcwz14d">https://t.co/K3Rkcwz14d</a></p> — J. W. (@wolfjon4) <a href="https://twitter.com/wolfjon4/status/1259976720163061761?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 11, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p>There's just ebb and flow of amount of contagion ahead of us? (Polio took a long time to basically eradicate. AIDS is still with us. Etc.)</p> <p>I am thinking that the best thing, the "miracle," would actually be a good treatment rather than a vaccine, one that targets the virus itself?</p> </div></div></div> Mon, 11 May 2020 22:56:26 +0000 artappraiser comment 281407 at http://dagblog.com Russia’s goal was never http://dagblog.com/comment/281388#comment-281388 <a id="comment-281388"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/281371#comment-281371">This is another reason</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">Russia’s goal was never merely to elect Donald Trump, <a href="https://twitter.com/FranklinFoer?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@FranklinFoer</a> writes. It was to bring down American democracy. Now Vladimir Putin is poised to complete the mission he began four years ago. <a href="https://t.co/bc6UscXnzO">https://t.co/bc6UscXnzO</a></p> — The Atlantic (@TheAtlantic) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheAtlantic/status/1259820178843598848?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 11, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Mon, 11 May 2020 20:23:55 +0000 PeraclesPlease comment 281388 at http://dagblog.com Right. What positive can be http://dagblog.com/comment/281385#comment-281385 <a id="comment-281385"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/281382#comment-281382">The feelings of helplessness</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Right. What positive can be done?</p> </div></div></div> Mon, 11 May 2020 20:08:36 +0000 PeraclesPlease comment 281385 at http://dagblog.com The feelings of helplessness http://dagblog.com/comment/281382#comment-281382 <a id="comment-281382"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/281377#comment-281377">You have a traitor in the</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>The feelings of helplessness are intense. Pretty much the only thing that makes it manageable is the understanding that it leaves me as paralyzed as the numb nuts calling the shots if I let it overwhelm me.</p> </div></div></div> Mon, 11 May 2020 19:47:38 +0000 moat comment 281382 at http://dagblog.com You have a traitor in the http://dagblog.com/comment/281377#comment-281377 <a id="comment-281377"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/281371#comment-281371">This is another reason</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>You have a traitor in the White House who's trying to kill all of you and destroy the country, whether for Putin, MbS, or just his own dystopia. This waiting to see how bad it gets by January (or horrors, after) is just an amazing exercise in national masochism. Glad I'm not there at least.</p> </div></div></div> Mon, 11 May 2020 17:20:48 +0000 PeraclesPlease comment 281377 at http://dagblog.com p.s. If they don't figure out http://dagblog.com/comment/281376#comment-281376 <a id="comment-281376"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/281373#comment-281373">That said and agreed to, we</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>p.s. If they don't figure out better treatment soon, the number of people on "disability" could skyrocket (might as well go to universal basic income right then and there if that happens?) along these lines:</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">I GOT A VIRUS, I DIDN’T DIE, BUT I NEVER RECOVERED.<br /><br /> As a growing number of experts warn of a rise in ME following the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/COVID19?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#COVID19</a> pandemic, the need for treatments that help, not harm, is ever stronger.<br /><br /> We are the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MillionsMissing?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MillionsMissing</a> &amp; we need change now. A thread. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/pwme?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#pwme</a> <a href="https://t.co/LqW2XL3fki">pic.twitter.com/LqW2XL3fki</a></p> — #MEAction Network UK (@MEActNetUK) <a href="https://twitter.com/MEActNetUK/status/1259518969205207040?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 10, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p> </p> </div></div></div> Mon, 11 May 2020 16:35:53 +0000 artappraiser comment 281376 at http://dagblog.com That said and agreed to, we http://dagblog.com/comment/281373#comment-281373 <a id="comment-281373"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/281367#comment-281367">Half deaths from nursing</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>That said and agreed to, we focus so much on deaths that we forget the other things a bad case can do: permanent organ damage, stroke, disability... I can't recommend this lady's story enough: </p> <p><a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/05/09/seven-weeks-with-coronavirus/?arc404=true">Voices from the Pandemic: How long can a heart last like this?’ Darlene Krawetz, on what life becomes when covid-19 won’t go away</a></p> <p>Until the medical "profession" has more time to figure this critter out and how to better treat it's multitudinous ramifications it's a real crap shoot to even get treated for it, along the lines of "first, do no harm." They are doing their best, deserve the "heroes" thing for the old college try, but it's little more than witch doctoring at most places right now.</p> <p>Often enough the ones with the most experience at treating it, who would have the most intuitive abilities to recognize what it might be doing to one body or another and how to counteract it, they are falling prey themselves! </p> <p>This is precisely where the "flatten the curve" thing is most valuable &gt; allowing the medical practitioners to handle it more slowly, one by one, learning as they go. The later you get it, the more knowledge they have, the better off you are.</p> <p>Is precisely why I think all rmrd's stats about minorities access to care and testing, etc. are folly at this point. Those whypipple who have insurance and are being admitted to the hospital right now? They are mostly getting shit care, maybe shittier than those that are staying home. Some are being killed by the wrong treatment. Too soon to study anything like that! Makes no sense. Show me stats how many people are coming out of those hospitals and with attentive providers are faring first. I betcha not that impressive, nothing to yearn for yet. I'll give that a most hospitals (but most probably not at most nursing homes, where it's likely there's a ton of awful suffering going on away from prying eyes of family) people are at least getting palliative care, which they wouldn't at home I.E., if they are hooked up to the wrong machine, at least they're getting pain meds along with that...and there's someone there to put them on Facetime once in a while and feed them something whether intravenous or whatever.</p> </div></div></div> Mon, 11 May 2020 16:24:58 +0000 artappraiser comment 281373 at http://dagblog.com This is another reason http://dagblog.com/comment/281371#comment-281371 <a id="comment-281371"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/coronavirus-infection-risks-know-them-avoid-them-31206">(Coronavirus infection) The Risks - Know Them - Avoid Them</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>This is another reason everyone's on their own to judge their own risks:</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">A key point <a href="https://twitter.com/B_resnick?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@B_resnick</a> makes here is that are some very inconvenient lags at work where a place could do something very bad for public health and we wouldn’t know for weeks. <a href="https://t.co/RQmPo6yGvp">https://t.co/RQmPo6yGvp</a></p> — Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) <a href="https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1259874823305658373?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 11, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Mon, 11 May 2020 15:53:37 +0000 artappraiser comment 281371 at http://dagblog.com Half deaths from nursing http://dagblog.com/comment/281367#comment-281367 <a id="comment-281367"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/281364#comment-281364">Most people catch Coronavirus</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Half deaths from nursing homes</p> <p><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/11/nursing-homes-us-data-coronavirus">https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/11/nursing-homes-us-data-co...</a></p> </div></div></div> Mon, 11 May 2020 15:34:59 +0000 PeraclesPlease comment 281367 at http://dagblog.com