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NYT Sample:

PeraclesPlease — Sat, 23 May 2020 06:54:00 +0000

NYT Sample, cut-and-paste on Windows:

At issue is an April 7, 2018, attack on Douma, Syria. Bellingcat reported, based on an analysis of six open-source videos, that it was “highly likely” that Douma civilians had died because of chemical weapons. In March, the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons reported that there were “reasonable grounds” to say that chemical weapons had been used in the attack.

with Android, when I go to paste, there are 2 options, one that preserves html/links, the other that's "Paste as Text" which obviously removes embedded links.

How are you handling this? (we can take this to email)

p.s. to my previous comment

artappraiser — Sat, 23 May 2020 05:52:32 +0000

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p.s. to my previous comment to PP. Every link in the above quoted text is dead because I just pasted it direct from NYTimes without editing the links back in that correspond to the underlined phrases. Every underlined phrase above is a live link on the NYTimes page I copied it from.

It's virtually ALL pastes

artappraiser — Sat, 23 May 2020 05:48:50 +0000

In reply to Give me an example of a link

It's virtually ALL pastes from NYT articles now, ALL embedded links virtually NEVER transfer whenever I paste from them. This has been going on for many months, they changed their code or whatever, it's no longer simpatico with pasting here.

I don't think you can fix without spending as much time as I do.

When you see me paste an excerpt from NYT and it has embedded links in it here that work, it's only because I've manually re-entered them. (By right click on the NYT page to get their embedded link url and then highlighting the dead pasted link here and using the link icon here to edit the link back in.)

Is time consuming and I didn't feel like doing it this time because I didn't want to be dragged into an umpeenth discussion about what I consider ancient history anyways.

Doesn't happen with others like WaPo or CNN etc. nearly everyone else, the embedded links still transfer with a paste. NYTimes changed something so that doesn't work here any longer. Used to but no longer, they paste dead.

Give me an example of a link

PeraclesPlease — Sat, 23 May 2020 05:06:45 +0000

In reply to p.s. the underlined are all

Give me an example of a link that doesn't turn into url and I'll debug.

p.s. the underlined are all

artappraiser — Fri, 22 May 2020 23:44:51 +0000

In reply to I admit I didn't watch more

p.s. the underlined are all embedded links in the NYTimes article. With the NYT, they no longer automatically paste as live links on Dag. I often spend the time for others who don't have subscriptions pasting them in, but this time I decided to to pass on that. Because in context of everything going on in the world right now, I really honestly don't care. I have a subscription, you can too. Or not.

I admit I didn't watch more

artappraiser — Fri, 22 May 2020 23:34:15 +0000

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I admit I didn't watch more than the intro. to the video. But curious about your recommendation--I know I don't usually like to waste time on what you recommend, I'll fully admit to that unashamedly after wasting too much time over the years with what you recommend an arguing about it to no good effect except debate games--but this one was new. So I saw the name "Bellingcat". I had a window open on NYTimes, I typed it in there and got this recent fairly lengthy article on Bellingcat and their rep and their work, mostly quite positive and even complimentary, including this excerpt late in the article on Douma:

[...] Open-source journalism has the same vulnerabilities as traditional journalism. A biased reporter or a reliance on sources with an agenda can lead to skewed stories. Some journalists and activists hostile to what they characterize as Bellingcat’s pro-Western narratives have criticized some of its coverage of the war in Syria.

At issue is an April 7, 2018, attack on Douma, Syria. Bellingcat reported, based on an analysis of six open-source videos, that it was “highly likely” that Douma civilians had died because of chemical weapons. In March, the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons reported that there were “reasonable grounds” to say that chemical weapons had been used in the attack.

Critics of Bellingcat have pointed to an email from an investigator with the organization, saying that it raised questions about the findings. WikiLeaks published the email on Nov. 23. In a response, Bellingcat defended its reporting, saying the final report on Douma from the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons reflected the concerns of the investigator whose email was published by WikiLeaks [....]

from These Reporters Rely on Public Data, Rather Than Secret Sources by Marc Tracey, Dec. 1, 2019

https://www.youtube.com/watch

A Guy Called LULU — Fri, 22 May 2020 23:06:54 +0000

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvoh5jZJshk

https://al-bab.com/blog/2020

PeraclesPlease — Fri, 22 May 2020 22:02:18 +0000

In reply to By Special Request: The evidence we were never meant to see about the Douma ‘gas’ attack

https://al-bab.com/blog/2020/01/douma-chemical-weapons-investigation-and...

https://www.bellingcat.com/news/mena/2020/01/17/the-opcw-douma-leaks-par...

For anyone interested in the

A Guy Called LULU — Fri, 22 May 2020 21:24:22 +0000

In reply to By Special Request: The evidence we were never meant to see about the Douma ‘gas’ attack

For anyone interested in the details go here. There is much more in the archive, including this which is worth 15 minutes, IMO.