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Hey, I'm the Hillary-loving

PeraclesPlease — Sun, 31 May 2020 07:38:27 +0000

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Hey, I'm the Hillary-loving neolib who chose the status quo over revolution - think you got me pegged wrong. But protest/riot/revolution - sometimes a thin difference.

This IS just like Baghdad.

artappraiser — Sun, 31 May 2020 02:45:59 +0000

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This IS just like Baghdad. Stand back and let free people be free to destroy things

Wow. Police are retreating. pic.twitter.com/YQZtEJGpx3
— Natalie Allison (@natalie_allison) May 31, 2020

Just like Baghdad:

artappraiser — Sun, 31 May 2020 02:42:30 +0000

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Just like Baghdad:

The statue of Edward Carmack, an early 1900s newspaper publisher who hated Ida B. Wells and alcohol and was gunned down on a Nashville street, has been torn down.

There has been a commission in the works for years to replace this with one of Davy Crockett. pic.twitter.com/7xOE5Yhy3n
— Natalie Allison (@natalie_allison) May 31, 2020

except for the part about a replacement commission of Davy Crockett already on order.

Here it is, what I am talking

artappraiser — Sun, 31 May 2020 02:14:41 +0000

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Here it is, what I am talking about above and it thoroughly disgusts me, bunch of kids having fun playing big shot revolutionaries trying to destroy Nashville city hall. Not much better than Trump himself. Watch with sound on:

http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/go-home-31405#comment-282402

ugh. Love to sic Keisha Lance Bottons on them.

Oh, and I forgot to mention:

artappraiser — Sun, 31 May 2020 00:37:20 +0000

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Oh, and I forgot to mention: cops were "pigs" back then, too. It was a secondary issue, especially after Kent State. But the primary issue was being drafted. Though the spitting on returning vets was mostly a myth, I dare say lots of cops were spit on--the famous flower in the rifle barrel picture was outlier behavior.

I totally believe that.

artappraiser — Sun, 31 May 2020 00:32:21 +0000

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I totally believe that.

Also would not be surprised to find a lot of violence is white college kids who were bored sitting in mom's basement last couple months, find revolution an antifa-temp-job an exciting distraction, fooling themselves that they care about the masses, because it's cool and glamorous, something they can brag to their own kids about, being on the streets during this time. I know the syndrome, was at UW-Madison in 71-72.

Though Keisha Lance Bottoms speech also suggested there were also incidents of afro-american 'hood slacker and gansta types, as well with her comment about looting liquor in her speech. I don't think she would make that up as unlike our Surgeon General, she's not associated with Trump, so dissing "the community" would be allowed. Plus overall she's boosterish of Atlanta being representative of minority success, Dem style. And she must have had intel on actual events or she wouldn't have been so upset and fearful of it getting worse.

I don't find any need to go conspiracy theories of white supremacist wingnuts causing the violence. I can easily see white kids who think they are liberals doing it. I travelled with that crowd as a young college student. It's quite easy to be infatuated with the idea of causing a revolution and being a "Street Fighting Man" as the song goes. It's all nonsense. The Chicago 7 and 68 Dem convention riots got Nixon elected. And still we wanted to be "Street Fighting Men" as if that was going to help.Non-college Afro-Americans wisely mostly stayed out of it, had their own riots over other things! Hard to form coalitions when rioting for different reasons...

I consider revolutions and

ocean-kat — Sat, 30 May 2020 23:42:26 +0000

In reply to I think riots removed

I consider revolutions and riots as different but if you think they're the same good luck over throwing the US government and taking over.

Kabul, success:

PeraclesPlease — Sat, 30 May 2020 23:05:31 +0000

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Kabul, success:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1842_retreat_from_Kabul

Who is behind the riots?

rmrd0000 — Sat, 30 May 2020 23:03:04 +0000

In reply to Go ahead and have a nice riot

Who is behind the riots?

The Governor of Minnesota

Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz said he is aware of unconfirmed reports that gangs of white supremacists are taking advantage of the anarchy unfolding in Minneapolis to create more chaos.

The comment came during an early morning press conference Saturday in which Walz, Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey and members of the law enforcement community laid out plans for containing the destruction that has spread through much of the Twin Cities.

When asked by a reporter if Walz was aware of rumors that white supremacists had joined some of the looting he said based on "my suspicions and what I've seen on this, yes."

"It gets worse than that," he added. "The cartels, who are wondering if there was a break in their drug transmissions, are trying to take advantage of the chaos. That's why this situation is on a federal level."

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/live-blog/george-floyd-death-minneapolis-protests-live-updates-n1217886/ncrd1219396#blogHeader

The arrests are people from out of state

Minneapolis officials suggest that an increasing number of people rioting—perhaps as many as 80%—are coming from outside the city in what Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz said was “an organized attempt to destabilize civil society.” Walz has suggested that white supremacists and drug cartels were possibly involved in the chaos. According to The Star Tribune, about 40 people were arrested over Friday night, and that Hennepin County jail records showed detainees hailed from stateslike Florida, Michigan, Missouri, Illinois and Alaska on charges like destroying property, breaking curfew and burglary. On Saturday morning, Saint Paul Mayor Melvin Carter said he was told that every person arrested in the city over Friday night was from out of state.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/carlieporterfield/2020/05/30/who-is-umbrella-man-mystery-vandal-at-minneapolis-riot-spurs-conspiracies/#30d6f271236e

Edit to add:

Also see PP's post above about black activists telling white protesters to chill out

I think riots removed

PeraclesPlease — Sat, 30 May 2020 22:51:36 +0000

In reply to Go ahead and have a nice riot

I think riots removed Yanukovych, Ceaucescu, Milosevic, along with antiShah and antiTsar riots, and whatnot in China. But the flare-ups yesterday are timid compared to real riots...

https://matadornetwork.com/change/11-of-historys-biggest-riots-and-why-they-happened/