dagblog - Comments for "With Lots To Cover, the Black Press Convenes" http://dagblog.com/link/lots-cover-black-press-convenes-31560 Comments for "With Lots To Cover, the Black Press Convenes" en Empathy is the ability to http://dagblog.com/comment/283171#comment-283171 <a id="comment-283171"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/283147#comment-283147">Media choses what to report,</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">Empathy is the ability to model and imaginatively project yourself into another person's perspective. It is a faculty of mind quite distinct from pity or kindness, though it can be the occasion for those other feelings and dispositions; it can just as easily be instrumental</p> — Wesley Yang (@wesyang) <a href="https://twitter.com/wesyang/status/1271452866318925824?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 12, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Fri, 12 Jun 2020 15:44:09 +0000 artappraiser comment 283171 at http://dagblog.com Too easy See: Ralph Northam. http://dagblog.com/comment/283166#comment-283166 <a id="comment-283166"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/283160#comment-283160">Can a blackface wearer be</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Too easy</p> <p>See: Ralph Northam.</p> </div></div></div> Fri, 12 Jun 2020 12:14:56 +0000 rmrd0000 comment 283166 at http://dagblog.com There is a fantastic movie http://dagblog.com/comment/283164#comment-283164 <a id="comment-283164"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/lots-cover-black-press-convenes-31560">With Lots To Cover, the Black Press Convenes</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">There is a fantastic movie called Crisis, it’s reality tv from 1963 with footage from news teams embedded with Pres. &amp; AG Kennedy, Gov. Wallace, DOJ presence in Alabama &amp; the students who integrated the University. An amazing piece of history. <a href="https://twitter.com/MoWFilmFest?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MoWFilmFest</a> <a href="https://t.co/AnwxHCYuzJ">https://t.co/AnwxHCYuzJ</a> <a href="https://t.co/qlZU4aKLFq">https://t.co/qlZU4aKLFq</a></p> — Joyce Alene (@JoyceWhiteVance) <a href="https://twitter.com/JoyceWhiteVance/status/1271095087540441088?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 11, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Fri, 12 Jun 2020 05:56:11 +0000 PeraclesPlease comment 283164 at http://dagblog.com Can a blackface wearer be http://dagblog.com/comment/283160#comment-283160 <a id="comment-283160"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/283146#comment-283146">No mud.</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Can a blackface wearer be born again, or that only applies to Nazi supporters or blue-eyed devil haters?</p> </div></div></div> Fri, 12 Jun 2020 05:30:00 +0000 PeraclesPlease comment 283160 at http://dagblog.com McWhorter notes that blacks http://dagblog.com/comment/283150#comment-283150 <a id="comment-283150"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/283145#comment-283145">my underlining:</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>McWhorter notes that blacks receive rougher treatment at the hands of police. 90% of the stops of black young men during the height of Stop and Frisk resulted in handcuffing for nothing. Police departments are going to have to change. "Hands up don't shot" remains because the Ferguson police department used the black community as a piggy bank.</p> <p>McWhorter does a podcast on Blogginheads with Conservative Glenn Loury. They realize that they are contrarians and outliers. They repeatedly focus on the absolute numbers of deaths of different racial groups at the hands of police. Because a police homicide in a community that makes up a smaller percentage of the total population means that it is easier to make connections with the murder victim. More people in the community have been roughed up by the police, or know someone roughed up by the police. McWhorter and Loury come across as apologists.</p> <p>As long as the community is "roughed up" more, there is little trust when a police associated homicide occurs.</p> <p>Because of this close contact effect that enrages communities nationwide, it will be the black community that lights the spark to create police reform.</p> <p>McWhorter and Loury get the side eye because they bask in the glory of ridiculing people for worrying about police homicides while seemingly ignoring the non fatal encounters.</p> <p>On another note</p> <p>It seems Coleman Hughes graduated from Columbia</p> <p>On a podcast I came across, Hughes noted that he attended a BLM protest in NYC as they were the only game in town</p> <p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8C-VrsK93GE">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8C-VrsK93GE</a></p> <p> </p> <p>First Loury/McWhorter podcast on George Floyd</p> <p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RMEiclpA7E">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RMEiclpA7E</a></p> <p>Second Loury/McWhorter podcast on George Floyd</p> <p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8fndiNZimA">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8fndiNZimA</a></p> <p> </p> <p> </p> </div></div></div> Fri, 12 Jun 2020 03:05:27 +0000 rmrd0000 comment 283150 at http://dagblog.com an important point: non http://dagblog.com/comment/283148#comment-283148 <a id="comment-283148"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/283147#comment-283147">Media choses what to report,</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>an important point: non journalist cell-phone videos serve the purpose of  helping more segregated tribal people learn how to "read" people of other more segregated tribes. I think this has caused a lot of the escalation of culture change. Because it's not "edited" like our broadcast tv shows once were (Though it's still somewhat "edited" by "ratings"--as what else is "going viral" but high ratings?)</p> <p>This also why it's incredibly dangerous the more these are falsified or successfully edited so that they are not slices of reality.</p> </div></div></div> Fri, 12 Jun 2020 02:17:33 +0000 artappraiser comment 283148 at http://dagblog.com Media choses what to report, http://dagblog.com/comment/283147#comment-283147 <a id="comment-283147"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/283145#comment-283145">my underlining:</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Media choses what to report, and there is bias in that, of course, always, because everything can't get priority coverage at once. But labeling it intentional  "propaganda", that's usually wrong, it's just bias.</p> <p>Hence<a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/yoko-taught-him-good-31536"> an open mind to a variety of polemic </a>is important, even within a tribe like "black journalists".</p> <p> And one simply can't totally control the spin people put on top--</p> <p>that's stereotype absorbed from one's own culture. And that can change very much over a lifetime as one meets more people ("meeting" people can be metaphoric--i.e., becoming a fan of a celebrity, tv show, or pundit or writer, interacting with someone on social media, etc.) and simply sometimes just gets better at reading <a href="https://twitter.com/owasow/status/1265709673191071744?s=20">facial expressions and poses and visual situations</a>, i.e. wisdom of age</p> </div></div></div> Fri, 12 Jun 2020 02:10:35 +0000 artappraiser comment 283147 at http://dagblog.com my underlining: http://dagblog.com/comment/283145#comment-283145 <a id="comment-283145"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/lots-cover-black-press-convenes-31560">With Lots To Cover, the Black Press Convenes</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>my underlining:</p> <blockquote> <p>[....] it is too seldom acknowledged that white men are regularly killed by the cops as well, and that occasionally the cops responsible are black (as it happens, one of the Dallas police officers at the scene of Timpa’s death was an African American). There seems to be a widespread assumption that, under similar circumstances, white cops kill black people but not white people, and that this disparity is either the product of naked racism or underlying racist bias that emerges under pressure. <u>Plenty of evidence indicates, however, that racism is less important to understanding police behavior than is commonly supposed.</u></p> <p><u>Timpa was, of course, just one case and might be dismisse</u>d as an anomaly. On the other hand, we are told that what happened to George Floyd is what happens to black people “all the time.” But<u> because the killing of black suspects by white police officers receives more media attention and elicits more outrage, such instances leave us vulnerable to the availability heuristic—a cognitive bias that leads us to form judgements about the prevalence of phenomena based on the readiness with which we can recall examples.</u> Had Tony Timpa been black, we would all likely know his name by now. Had George Floyd been white, his name would likely be a footnote, briefly reported in Minneapolis local news and quickly forgotten. In fact, white people are victims of police mistreatment “all the time” too. And just as the Timpa case tragically parallels the Floyd one, there are countless episodes paralleling those we hear about involving black people [....]</p> </blockquote> <p>excerpt from John McWorter essay @</p> <p> </p> <div class="media_embed"> <blockquote height="" width=""> <p>Racist Police Violence Reconsidered - Quillette <a href="https://t.co/LV3y4H86AC">https://t.co/LV3y4H86AC</a> via <a href="https://twitter.com/Quillette?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Quillette</a></p> — Obaid Omer (@obaidomer) <a href="https://twitter.com/obaidomer/status/1271257742733426689?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 12, 2020</a></blockquote> </div> <p>And I think that's because what we've been dealing with on a national level is not centrally about police, they are tangentially a problem, but in the end they are just a symbol, as was George Floyd's death, as is a statue of Columbus or Cecil Rohdes.</p> </div></div></div> Fri, 12 Jun 2020 01:51:09 +0000 artappraiser comment 283145 at http://dagblog.com No mud. http://dagblog.com/comment/283146#comment-283146 <a id="comment-283146"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/283144#comment-283144">AA had already reference</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>No mud.</p> <p>Malcolm was born again.</p> </div></div></div> Fri, 12 Jun 2020 01:46:47 +0000 rmrd0000 comment 283146 at http://dagblog.com AA had already reference http://dagblog.com/comment/283144#comment-283144 <a id="comment-283144"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/283141#comment-283141">I gave my reason why Malcolm</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>AA had already reference Malcolm's trip to Mecca, And most of us have probably read Haley's book so we know the story already.. Your usual blacksplaining bit only served to muddy the waters.</p> </div></div></div> Fri, 12 Jun 2020 01:39:03 +0000 PeraclesPlease comment 283144 at http://dagblog.com